lunamoth
Will to love
I would not agree with that in the typical meaning of the word, as in self-awareness.
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I would not agree with that in the typical meaning of the word, as in self-awareness.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
What about earthworms?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
I agree with both Storm and Zenzero. All energy has some form of consciousness. If a rock or a plant or any energy form has an action and a reaction, how is having consciousness any different? Something hurts us, it sends a signal to our body and our body generates a response...pain, ouch! There was an action and there was a reaction. When you drop a rock on the ground it responds does it not? It makes a noise and it might crack in half. Action and reaction. All is "animate" energy and consciousness. If energy did not have at least some form of consciousness, how would it be possible for it to change form of it's own accord? It is the "spirit" that is in all things. But that's my opinion.
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lunamoth
Will to love
I don't know as much about earthworms.
They have a nervous system and a cerebral ganglion so they are way ahead of plants in that area.
What exactly are you asking about earthworms?
Whether they can feel (sure).
Whether they have emotions? What do you think?
lunamoth
Will to love
Sorry, I missed it that you are asking whether they have self-awareness. That seems like a pretty high brain function to me. I would not think so, not like humans and other animals do. What do you think?
lunamoth
Will to love
I made another post. I missed what you were referring to before.
lunamoth
Will to love
The way I use those words, no, plants and rocks do not have awareness and consciousness.
If you equate consciousness = energy as Runewolf said, I'd say that everything does have energy in some form, potential or kinetic.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
I offer this Nationmaster encyclopedia article for a more balanced view of Bose's experiments and the so-called "Backster Effect". This research is largely regarded by scientists as pseudoscience, because the experiments have all been subject to serious flaws and/or lack of repeatability. It is clearly the case in humans that our emotions are connected with activity in the limbic system, and conscious awareness is clearly associated with activity in the central nervous system, something which plants lack completely. This is not to deny that plants "communicate" by chemical means with each other, but what is going on with the Backster Effect seems to be pure projection of human experience and human properties onto forms of life that do not possess the equipment we know to be necessary for such experiences in humans.
lunamoth
Will to love
Actually, I don't agree that all energy = consciousness. I agree that all things have energy in some form. I don't agree that makes them conscious.
lunamoth
Will to love
What do you mean by unique DNA?
For some reason that is ringing a bell, but I'd have to research it to find out more.
There is a lot of variation in how similar DNA is among individuals in a population of plants. Sometimes the plants are literally clones of each other, as in large aspen stands that propagate underground. Other times there will be more variation in the genes. But, as for any species, the DNA between individuals is largely conserved.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend lunamoth,
At least we have understood each other now to a point.
Personal understand remains energy to be what universal consciousness or what you say awareness IS.
It is not that some one makes something conscious. Consciousness is the core of all beings which is energy in every thing.
Love & rgds
At least we have understood each other now to a point.
Personal understand remains energy to be what universal consciousness or what you say awareness IS.
It is not that some one makes something conscious. Consciousness is the core of all beings which is energy in every thing.
Love & rgds
lunamoth
Will to love
Are you talking about something like this:
Science.gc.ca - Tree DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)
This case is referring to using DNA fingerprinting (like they do in criminal forensics) to see if a tree was taken from a particular place.
Buttercup
Veteran Member
Yes. Sorry, I didn't know how else to get the point across except to say "unique DNA" although I know it was redundant. I worded it as such because most people wouldn't think that each individual plant has a DNA different from it's neighbor of the same species. Pretty fascinating.
lunamoth
Will to love
It is very interesting.
As I said above, some plant species will have greater genetic variation between individuals than others. While in theory you should be able to be able to identify individual plants by DNA fingerprinting, in practicality this will depend on a lot of factors, such as whether the plants are domesticated or wild, how they usually propagate (sexual vs asexual reproduction), and other things. All the plants in a hybrid corn field, for example, will be virtually identical at the DNA level.
This link may appear mad to some, but the results are astonishingly bumper and abundant veg from what was in effect sand and not that warm a climate
http://www.psychicwise.com/faeries_and_plant_devas.htm
http://www.psychicwise.com/faeries_and_plant_devas.htm