Father Heathen
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Cannabis is neither as addictive nor as deadly as either tobacco or alcohol.
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New Zealand: no more smoking for the next generation.
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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But why isn't alcohol forbidden?
I mean... did you know that in my country there is total anarchy as for alcohol?
Nobody asks you the ID to have your age proved.
It's sufficient that a 12 year old tells the supermarket cashier: this vodka is for my dad.
Father Heathen
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And in some countries they defecate in the streets.
Is alcoholism that bad? I believe it has decreased in the UK over the last decades or so (probably replaced by drug use), and neither the UK or Italy seem to feature in any top tens (but Russia?), and look at where Italy is in any of these tables:
Alcoholism by Country 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ever hear of George Burns? A tobbaco smoker with a vengeance.
Maybe he didn't inhale.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Smoking isn't premeditated murder.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
What about him?
Some people survive playing Russian roulette, therefore it's totally safe?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
@Twilight Hue For the record I don't support an outright ban on either tobacco ot alcohol, but should be regulated due to health and safety risks.
stvdv
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Not accidental
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think education and warnings should be sufficient as to the health risks. I'm all for that.
So smokers are serial rapist murderers??
Pretty sure alcohol prohibition failed spectacularly in the West.
So many countries settled for a legal age limit instead lol
I remember when I worked the smokes counter. It was always interesting to see the lines in the sand people seemed to have. Like our smokes have explicit pictures of various health diseases caused by tobacco on them. And I would always get someone who would refuse certain packets simply because they were freaked out by specific pictures
In Europe there is an incredibly strong stigma towards smoking.
And I am speaking of tobacco. Imagine if we think of illegal stuff to smoke.
But as for alcohol...I mean...no. Nowhere...Germany, Italy, Scandinavia, France...
teenagers drinking as if it were water.
Because there is this conviction that alcohol isn't bad...at all.
Bier in Germany...is it safe? Yes, at any age.
Or in Italy I have seen fathers giving glasses of red wine to their kids.
And sparkling wine on Christmas and New Year's Eve.
It’s pretty much the same here. I think largely because of the European influence.
At least in my little bubble
I grew up on wine, brandy and the occasional liqueur.
No one really seemed to care. Though this was in private, under parental/adult supervision. They’ve gotten pretty strict with public drinking, truth be told.
stvdv
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That was not your initial claim to my reply
Seems to me, you just:
1)try to sabotage my words
2)like to debate
3)never got my point
4)have too much free time
or probably/hopefully
We seem to talk about different things
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Yes, indeed. Let's not forget the Irish influence there, so many Irish and their lovely pubs.
We also have the culture of the Irish pub.
The smell of smoke sticks on clothes and one needs to wash them frequently.
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They are often the same though.
I think it's an excellent plan. I smoked (stupid, stupid me!) for nearly 40 years. I quit over 20 years ago, but I know how hard it is, so I cut people who haven't been able to quit some slack. But I admit to having little patience for younger people taking up the habit for the first time -- we have quite enough information about the hazards of smoking that I rate it about the same as deciding to have a teaspoon or 2 of arsenic every day. Actually, the arsenic isn't as bad, because at least others aren't being poisoned by you silliness.