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Featured New Atheists?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Policy, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:54 PM.

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  1. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Funny, ive never seen an angry atheist on RF, never mind an angry "new" atheist. But i have seen several very angry theists, both new and old, when they cannot defend their belief against reality. Having been the target of fire and brimstone, burning in hell along with my children, i can tell you this from first hand experience.
     
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  2. mikkel_the_dane

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    Yeah, well, you haven't paid attention to when I "overstep" and question the personal belief system of a given atheist besides being an atheist. I mean, all we do as atheists is not to collect stamps. We never claim evidence, rationality, humanism or do morality/ethics. All we do, when we answer something, is to say - We don't collect stamps.

    So again, you do only use evidence and rationality for all your beliefs? I can't remember, if you are one of them.
     
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    But you seem to have a bright smile doing this.
     
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    That resonates.
     
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    Funny, I see a lot angry atheists. Not several, many. All the time. Pretending to be scholars of a religion, spreading lies, arguing with no knowledge whatsoever, and making things up like 'oh your religion wants to burn my children' with no analysis at the level of a sophomore.

    Did I respond with your same standards?
     
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    Well, there really are no New Atheists. There is a field of beliefs some atheists have and if you kind of look at all atheists and then try to find a sub-set, then yes, there are different sub-sets of atheists. But it is a kind of moving target like everything that is in the end sociology and psychology combined.
    Depending on the list of characteristics you look for and how you look for them you will get different results.
    But just as with strong/weak atheists and agnostic/gnostic it is possible to make a simple line with anti-theist at one end and friendly atheist at the other. But that is no true as such. It is just a point of view. Such is parts of sociology and psychology.
    Hope it helps.
     
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    Yeah, I see a lot of angry people. I am one of them from time to time, but I try to work on that. :)
     
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    uhg! o_O
     
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    Why in the world would you get angry? Why not meet me for a coffee and we both get angry at the lack of intensity?

    What you say?
     
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    Well, I have an issue with authority derived from rationality and evidence. I live in secular society so dictators and theocracies are not my everyday problems. My problems are off the privileged white kind and revolves around people making claims with evidence and rationality, which don't hold up.
     
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    Err. Thats nice.

    But irrelevant to coffee. And maybe you thing people all over the world other than you live in some dictatorship, and you are happier than you. Maybe thinking like that makes you happy.

    Well. I suppose people make up their own centres of happiness.

    Cheers.
     
  12. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, no. I try not to do that. Morality/ethics/good life is a matter of luck and I do know that. I was just born luckier than some and that is how that is. I still try to do my part as a human, but I am realistic about it.
    You are in Canada, right? Doubt we will ever meet in real life. :)
     
  13. Policy

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    I agree
     
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    That would certainly track.
     
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    Cheers.
     
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    As powerful and influential as the US is, it's still in the world's interest for there not to be dumdums behind its wheel.
     
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    That is an interesting thought. One of the really weird things that happens when a creationist attempts to gird me on evolution is that they start attacking the character of the people behind the idea. As though Darwin is my Jesus, or something.
     
  18. ChristineM

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    Not made much difference up to now ;-)
     
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    I know what you mean. I was born an atheist, and have remained unconvinced my entire life. This is my 57th winter, so you do the maths. :cool::D
     
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    My maths aren't far behind yours. 54.
     
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