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Featured MURDER, GENOCIDE, and ATHEISTS.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by shmogie, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

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    Why would you become a Christian Fundie? ;)

    I'm not one but from what I've read, they condemn the act, not the thought.
     
  2. Snow White

    Snow White Veteran Member

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    I didn't say I would but I did want to pose the question. I was kind of a Christian of sorts when I joined here. I'm now I guess Pantheist/Panentheist - though some upon reviewing my beliefs, say I don't 100% fit the description.
     
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  3. usfan

    usfan Well-Known Member

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    Far out, man.. :D
    (..coming from an old hippie..
    and former atheist..)

    :hugehug:

    The more militant, intolerant atheists are not really philosophers, like i am used to. They are ideologues, bent on destroying Christianity, and promoting their beliefs, and they use any and every tactic to that end. I coined the acronym, 'MADAs', (not MAGA!) sometime back.. militant attack dog atheists...

    I seldom use it, except as return fire for some endearing term of their choice, like 'fundie nutter!, or 'extremist!'

    The intensity of their hostility can be disconcerting, to a rational, civil human being. But they are quite harmless (for now), and they mostly throw ad hom grenades and run. I pull the pins, and throw them back.. ;)
     
  4. SkepticThinker

    SkepticThinker Veteran Member

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    Which ones??
     
  5. usfan

    usfan Well-Known Member

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    Is that you, Gunga Din? :D

    Not me. If someone is going to throw tats, I'll return tits.. wait.. maybe it's the other way around.. ;)

    Actually, I'd be fine giving out tats for tits.. kind of a barter arrangement?

    :p
     
  6. SkepticThinker

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    I don't know how anyone could say this with a straight face in the country with the highest Christian population in the world.
    Is the majority being horribly oppressed by the minority? Gimme a break.
     
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  7. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    But if we go for "an eye for an eye" no one is going to be left with any eyes.
     
  8. shmogie

    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    No such intent ? Facts are unfriendly ?

    Atheists disparage and belittle Christians every day. Our beliefs are mocked, what we hold extremely important is regularly dragged through the verbal mud.

    A simple post regarding atheist mass murderers, a historical fact, is an individual attack on millions of people ?

    Have you ever brought up the crusades or the inquisition to Christians ? By your standard that is a grievous attack on millions of us. No, it is historical fact that we have to process and deal with.

    I simply cannot understand your rage, nor your personal attacks.

    This is a debate forum, it ain´t beanbags. I sometimes get angry, but try my best to leave out the personal stuff because it is childish. My anger is over quickly, and I try and respect the most noxious atheist.

    You are choosing to be upset and angry over nothing.

    If history and opinions bother you, maybe you shouldn´t get involved, for your own good.

     
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  9. SkepticThinker

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    Why can't you answer the question?
     
  10. shmogie

    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    Throw some to me, no tats though.
     
  11. shmogie

    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    What is the question ?
     
  12. Snow White

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    Eh I want to apologize on behalf of myself and nonChristians. I didn't understand where you were coming from for a very long time. Guess I just had my head in the clouds. I think I might understand now. Perhaps.
     
  13. shmogie

    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    Correct. Christians deal with temptations just like everyone else.

    I have a friend, a homosexual, who is celibate because he is totally committed to being a Christian.

    His free choice, and I have the deepest respect for he and his faith.
     
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    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, apology fully accepted, a new blank slate between us.
     
  15. Snow White

    Snow White Veteran Member

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    That sounds good.
     
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  16. shmogie

    shmogie Well-Known Member

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    You mean like you refuse to answer certain questions ? No.

    Frame the question and it will be answered. Last chance
     
  17. SkepticThinker

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    No idea what you are talking about.

    But Audie has asked you the same question about 4 or 5 times now.
     
  18. Audie

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    Of course you had no friendly intent, lets not
    be disingenuous.

    That clarified, I trust, lets look at facts.
    Not that everything you said is a fact, but,
    facts that there are are readily misrepresented,
    especially by one who has a specific agenda
    as you so non-dispassionately and obviously do.

    Here are some facts. Your face is lopsided, your teeth
    are crooked. Your nose is crooked. One ear is bigger
    the other. You have big pores, your teeth are
    rotting, and your nostrils are full of germs.

    Not a word of that is less than a fact. heck, it is true of
    you, me, and the man behind the tree.

    Where your charges against "atheists" blend off from
    statistics into opinion misrepresentation and falsehood,
    where it holds some water, I have preferred to leave
    to others.

    The specifics of your charges, I will set aside for
    now, but may come back to it. Lets look at your
    charge against 'atheists" who so deride what you
    seemingly say are all the beliefs of all christians.

    This is, if it happens, quite rare, and is in no
    way characteristic of atheists. I would like to see
    an example, I'd be as likely to go after the perp as you.

    Now, this is a debate forum. IF you bring in
    some baloney ideas, you will find them come
    under dispute. If you cannot handle it without
    having a blow out, then avoid being here.

    An example of baloney ideas would be the literal
    reading of genesis. A belief in a literal 6 day poof and
    the flood can only be achieved through ignorance,
    and for those who can no longer claim the status of naif,
    via intellectual dishonesty.

    IF anyone comes along expecting full
    respect and gentle massaging when you charge in
    denouncing science in the name of a moldy
    superstition, well, too bad. You wont get it.

    Further, the centuries long reign of those ideas
    over good sense is still not over, and, attempts
    to force it back into public schools never stops.
    Push back, not always polite, is inevitable.

    I have two questions for you. A try at an honest
    reflective answer would be appreciated.

    1. What do you hope to accomplish with this thread?
    2. Can you just say yes / no to the question
    of, would you kill me if god told you to?
     
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  19. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    You only get to apologize on your own behalf.
     
  20. Snow White

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    Understood.
     
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