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Not all calling themselves Christians see.Name one thing.
And I mean one thing you needn't be a Christian to see.
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Not all calling themselves Christians see.Name one thing.
And I mean one thing you needn't be a Christian to see.
All you're telling me is that your messiah did nothing the Messiah is meant to do.Not all calling themselves Christians see.
I am only telling you so you don't think everyone is right. You are judging when you agree or don't agree.
People say lots of things they don't believe in, especially when reading others out loud in a ceremony. I used the term OT because you said NT. I say it again, shalom
That's just her personal opinion.
Mary's parents, however, were Joachime and Anne. Joachim - Wikipedia
And besides, female lines were irrelevant to Jesus' claim to be the Jewish king in a paternalistic society anyway.
Obviously the two genealogies are male lines, even though the line in Matt 1 was irrelevant to Jesus' claim to have an inherited right to be the Jewish king if Jacob's son was only Jesus' adoptive father.
The genealogy in Luke 3 is that of Jesus' supposed biological father who was coincidentally also named Joseph, and was presumably based on a relationship between Mary and Heli's son.
While maternity is a matter of fact, paternity is just a matter of opinion without reliable paternity tests. Therefore Jesus' biological father could have been a Roman centurion as some claim, or even the milkman. But either way, Jesus' claim was false and why the Romans mocked him as the false "King of the Jews" when they executed him for sedition and why Peter denied knowing Jesus to avoid being executed for sedition too.
You know it makes sense.
No, Joshua was not necessarily lesser. Remember that Moses never accomplished bringing the People into the promised land. Joshua did that. He spoke for God to the people. That makes him a prophet like unto Moses.
Not to belabor this thread. The OP presented a question: Deuteronomy 18:15-22 speaks of a coming Prophet. What do Jews believe?
I beleive that the question has been detailed and answered on what we Jews hold by. I also feel that I have answered the additional questions sufficiently, from a Jewish perspective. So, with that I can now exit this thread.
Thanks for your input. I'll take a look at your video later!
Three quick points:Do you even believe a trial happened before Pilate? ...I thought your scripture says that the Romans killed him. ...
Actually, as I said, I only used OT because you used the term NT. So do not put me in the category you choose if it is not true. I do not consider it appropriate to say OT and NT. The books are one. I only said it for clarification to go along with your idea that there is a "New Testament." That is a misnomer.I know, so what is your point? I find it interesting that someone is willing to recite something they claim or hold didn't historically happen. As a Torath Mosheh Jew I would never recite, as a ceremony, anything that I know didn't actually happen or isn't real/true. Besides, there is no requirement for beleif in the Torah to begin with - there is a requirement for Jews to know.
OT is not a Jewish term NT is a Christian. That is the difference I am talking about. What you have read in an OT that you posses is not what I read in a Hebrew Tanakh. That is significant. Because you may say that a story in your OT is a fable and I may say that in the Hebrew Tanakh is clear about what are non-historical stories and what are not.
At least you say you doubt the narrative, I do not. I see no real evidence to support doubt. Just as in many areas of life, we must make a decision if our faith rests on it. I see too many details that would prove to me it happened. Yes, Pilate was a Roman appointee, had privilege over the region he was appointed to administer.Three quick points:
- I assume that many trials happened before Pilate.
- I seriously doubt that any of them corresponded to your NT narrative.
- Pilate was a Roman appointee and a Samnite (which was not one of our tribes).
The Tanakh is Jewish scripture. The above is unadulterated arrogance.I do not consider it appropriate to say OT and NT. The books are one.
On what planet does that comment make sense?Do you recite Maimonides' articles of faith every morning? If not, then I don't believe women recite in general those articles.
Have you looked? Are you qualified to judge the evidence presented? I suspect that we both know the answer to those questions. Meanwhile ...At least you say you doubt the narrative, I do not. I see no real evidence to support doubt.
We're living in what Jesus said would be the "last days." The understanding some have that he will return literally and be seen again by men is not true. He can be and will be 'seen' in a manner of speaking, by the fulfillment of the last days of this world as he comes in spirit with his holy angels to execute judgment. He is the son of God and as such has proved faithful and true. And now has great power, for which everyone loving God should be thankful.All you're telling me is that your messiah did nothing the Messiah is meant to do.
Bro, it's been 2,000 years already.We're living in what Jesus said would be the "last days." The understanding some have that he will return literally and be seen again by men is not true. He can be and will be 'seen' in a manner of speaking, by the fulfillment of the last days of this world as he comes in spirit with his holy angels to execute judgment. He is the son of God and as such has proved faithful and true. And now has great power, for which everyone loving God should be thankful.
According to the Tanakh, the time left is reduced. (Have a nice day.) You believe what you believe, I might say it is arrogance but I won't because I used to be in your shoes. Consider that as you will. And..have a nice day. Yes, the holy scriptures are one, from Moses through Revelation. Have another nice day.The Tanakh is Jewish scripture. The above is unadulterated arrogance.
On what planet does that comment make sense?
Since Jesus first appearing in the flesh. He will never appear in the flesh again. Yes, it's about 2,000 years since God's son came to the earth. And the prophecies are being fulfilled.Bro, it's been 2,000 years already.
People have been saying the prophecies have been fulfilled since the Mediaeval age and before. Many were certain the year 1,000 would be it. Others said the fall of Rome would bring it, even.Since Jesus first appearing in the flesh. He will never appear in the flesh again. Yes, it's about 2,000 years since God's son came to the earth. And the prophecies are being fulfilled.
Actually, as I said, I only used OT because you used the term NT. So do not put me in the category you choose if it is not true. I do not consider it appropriate to say OT and NT. The books are one. I only said it for clarification to go along with your idea that there is a "New Testament." That is a misnomer.
I do not say the accounts are fables, others do that claim to adhere to whatever religion they associate with claiming to be Jewish or Christian. I put my faith in God and His word, the Bible.