Redemptionsong
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Deuteronomy 18:15-22 speaks of a coming Prophet. Muslims like to associate this passage with Muhammad, whilst Christians believe the Prophet is Jesus Christ.
What do Jews believe?
What do Jews believe?
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So why didn't the coming prophet arrive within the lifetimes of the writers of Deut 18:15-22?Deuteronomy 18:15-22 speaks of a coming Prophet. Muslims like to associate this passage with Muhammad, whilst Christians believe the Prophet is Jesus Christ.
What do Jews believe?
The prophet was clearly of great importance and would have been recognised as 'of thy brethren' (an Israelite). Prophets from Moses to Malachi do not claim to have witnessed his coming.So why didn't the coming prophet arrive within the lifetimes of the writers of Deut 18:15-22?
Was David the coming prophet, given that he was even his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:6-7) although he was an adulterous murderer who said that his love with Jonathon was more wonderful than with any of his wives?The prophet was clearly of great importance and would have been recognised as 'of thy brethren' (an Israelite). Prophets from Moses to Malachi do not claim to have witnessed his coming.
Why could not any of these prophets, after Moses, have been the one, or ones, spoken of in these verses?The prophet was clearly of great importance and would have been recognised as 'of thy brethren' (an Israelite). Prophets from Moses to Malachi do not claim to have witnessed his coming.
Was David the coming prophet, given that he was even his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:6-7) although he was an adulterous murderer who said that his love with Jonathon was more wonderful than with any of his wives?
Why could not any of these prophets, after Moses, have been the one, or ones, spoken of in these verses?
That it does not indicate anything of the kind.
But why didn't Jesus' family (including his mother and her husband) believe that he was a prophet (Matt 13:55-58 John 7:5)?The evidence that Jesus Christ is the prophet spoken of in Deuteronomy, is, IMO, very compelling.
Since David looks forward to another that is greater than he, does it not make sense that David is not the prophet spoken of in Deuteronomy?
But why didn't Jesus' family (including his mother and her husband) believe that he was a prophet (Matt 13:55-58 John 7:5)?
And where does the bible say that David looked "forward to another that was greater than he", given that David was even his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:6-7), whereas Jesus only said that he was the son of a man?
Deuteronomy 18:15-22 speaks of a coming Prophet. Muslims like to associate this passage with Muhammad, whilst Christians believe the Prophet is Jesus Christ.
What do Jews believe?
So why didn't Jesus' family believe that he was a prophet (Matt 13:55-58 Mark 6:4 Luke 4:24 John 7:5) and is that why he rejected them (Matt 12:46-50)?As Jesus said, 'A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house'.
So who was David's "my Lord", given that Psalm 110 is written in the past and present tense? And doesn't change the fact that Psalm 2:6-7 obviously refers to David who was also a king as well as his god's begotten son, given that it is written in the first person and in the past and present tense, and not in the third person and the future tense.In Psalm 110, David speaks of 'my Lord', who sits at the right hand of the LORD. So if this person is the LORD'S closest, then maybe it's time to rethink Psalm 2:6-7, and the addressee of verse 7?
It means what it says: that the God of the Israelites will raise up from among the Israelites a leader/guide who will be, like Moses, a prophet as opposed to a soothsayer/augur.What does it indicate, in your opinion?
So why didn't the coming prophet arrive within the lifetimes of the writers of Deut 18:15-22?
But why would Moses be referring to someone 1300 years or so later and not to a contemporary such as Joshua who took over from him?Why do you think he should have come at that time?
Because Moses knows that he will not be around. Pretty simple; no Jesus required - but do feel free to carry on with your proselytizing by way of rhetorical questions.This is an interesting verse because Moses speaks these words, and Moses is considered by Jews to be the greatest of the prophets. Yet Moses says to Israel 'unto him ye shall hearken;' ...
Actually, I thought Redemptionsong's questions were pretty good. But then I believe Jesus is the one Moses was referring to.Because Moses knows that he will not be around. Pretty simple; no Jesus required - but do feel free to carry on with your proselytizing by way of rhetorical questions.
That's because Jesus is an alternative spelling of Joshua who Moses was presumably referring to as his successor.Actually, I thought Redemptionsong's questions were pretty good. But then I believe Jesus is the one Moses was referring to.