sealchan
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Came across this article from Science News in my Facebook feed...
The medieval mentality of modern science
Glad to discuss...
The medieval mentality of modern science
Glad to discuss...
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Medieval Metaphysical Considerations in Modern Science
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PoetPhilosopher
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Science and mathematics is our best understanding of reality. For that which we don't understand, religion and imagination comes into play.
Altfish
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The article is nearly 5-years old?
Altfish
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Can you list the things that are best described by religion; I can't think of any.
PoetPhilosopher
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What caused the Big Bang to go, boom?
Altfish
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PoetPhilosopher
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PoetPhilosopher
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While the argument for the nonreligious is:
"Cosmologydidit"
"Cosmologydidit"
leov
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The difference being non-religious don't pretend to have the answer. No one is sure what caused the Big Bang. There is just a great deal of evidence that points to it happening.
Are you familiar with the Eastern enlightenment traditions?
PoetPhilosopher
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I concede in that regard.
Altfish
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exchemist
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I don't buy the suggestion that science has a "mediaeval mentality". The unresolved issues he mentions belong to metaphysics or philosophy and are probably timeless, rather than mediaeval. In fact he mentions ideas that preoccupied the ancient Greeks, who certainly were not mediaeval.
I can't really see any useful sense in which the way science approaches the world can be said to be mediaeval. What would that mean? The main intellectual approach of the Middle Ages, surely, was Scholasticism, which was rooted in study of ancient philosophy and Christian theology and theorising from these foundations. Essentially it was all about reading books. The distinguishing hallmark of natural science, on the other hand, is empiricism: reliance on observation of nature to discriminate between hypotheses.
sealchan
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Is it? Still...on the time scale it covers...
sealchan
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How to resolve or endure moral dilemmas
Science has no answer, outside of the magical "it just happened" to why the universe exists. This is like a magic wand being waved with no waver in sight, just the wand.
Science cannot penetrate beyond ordinary matter. Religion/spirituality offers not only a vision of what lies beyond but in some cases a roadmap for experiencing that which people can follow.
This later does share characteristics with scientific experiments. The difference is that the focus in inward. The postulate is that there is something beyond ordinary matter. The experiments that people can do are called the spiritual path. The prediction is that at least some who do this will reproduce the results reported by luminous figures of the past such as St. Francis, Rumi, Hafiz, Ramakrishna and many others.
"Can you list the things that are best described by religion"
Love... Saddness, guilt, loss, joy...
Hmmmm the above are also served by music, story, and many arts..
Not all religious people Pretend they are doing science religiously such as creationism, intelligent design etc. Thats actually not religion at all. Thats Like talking about big foot believing its science. I think that should make sense to someone who knows the difference between bigfoot and science.
Yes its self evident that its language in application to nature not " it" is determining nature. Although it is accurate but so is my 3d characters in my computer. Not real accurate