Let’s talk about the Bible

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'm having a disagreement with the OP.It says most all ancient writings the bibles age were all destroyed the bible is the only one that survived.

This sentence is near incoherent. You do us and yourself a disservice.

 

[Oeste]

The light grows brighter to make sure this truth is a truth-Daniel 12:4--God hid some truths--even his angels didn't know them but desired to-1Peter 1:12)-- It kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness.

Apparently this darkness is doing the same to your Governing Board otherwise they wouldn't keep changing it.

Wouldn't it be better for them to be "discreet" and get back to us once they have enough light to see? I think shouting "truth" when you don't actually have all the facts is presumptuous, and not a pastime a "discreet" slave would engage in.

What do you think?

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[savagewind]

What do you think?

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LOL

 

[savagewind]

This sentence is near incoherent. You do us and yourself a disservice.

It's not too, too bad.

I'm having a disagreement with the OP. It says most of all the ancient writings of the bible[']s age were all destroyed[period] The bible is the only one that survived.

It's called shorthand.

 

[Riders]

This sentence is near incoherent. You do us and yourself a disservice.

Yes my English is not great.

However the original post was way too long.

She repeated herself quite abit.

To me it read like a ramble in parts.

 

[Riders]

The paragraph that starts with The Roman Catholic counsel has 7 rows of sentences in one sentence.

The whole paragraph is not readable to me.Its a run on sentence.

Before you pluck the speck out of my eye check your own eye out.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Yes my English is not great.

However the original post was way too long.

There is nothing quite so compelling as the old I-was-incoherent-because-she-was-verbose excuse.

 

[Riders]

Look Jayhawker, this one of her sentences.

Even after the reformation commenced the bible societies were formed the Catholic church classified them with socialism and communism.


What does that say?Can you tell me what the heck" the bible society's formed the Catholic church classified them" means?

 

[Riders]

There is nothing quite so compelling as the old I-was-incoherent-because-she-was-verbose excuse.

Have you seen the last post I put up?Can you tell me what that rambling run on sentence means?

 

[Riders]

We still have the Iliad and the Odyssey of Homer, written before much o f the Bible was completed. Do we assume that Zeus and Hera are active in supporting it's existence? We still have the Aeneid, so maybe its Jupiter on the watch?



Actually, there's also the Epic of Gilgamesh (long before much of the Bible was ever thought of, and which contains the Noah story -- in the name of Utnapushtim -- so perhaps we should we crediting the Sumerian pantheon, including the goddess Inanna, of which many other surviving stories tell.

I guess perhaps we should suppose that the Sumerian pantheon (An, the god of the heavens, Enlil, the god of wind and storm, Enki, the god of water and human culture, Ninhursag, the goddess of the earth and of fertility, Inanna, the goddess of sex, beauty, and warfare, Utu, the god of the sun and all the rest) are protecting the books that describe their world and their power? I have a copy of Inanna and the Huluppu and other stories tree myself -- again, a lot older than the Bible, and why should I, if some god (obviously not the Christian one) preserve it for me?

But I'll go further -- I'll say we also have much of the works of the ancient Greek philosophers -- and not because the Greek gods helped them survive (and the Christian God, in the dark ages, almost caused their complete loss), but because the scholars of early Islam saved them.

What point are you trying to make about how much more special your chosen book is than any of those others -- which are also still with us?

Thank you for making my point in such an intelligent thoughtful way.

My English was off so they avoided my point by destroying my post with my English.

But now that you made my exact point on a far more intelligent level I'd like to see the response.

I also brought up the Bhagavad Gita Buddhist Sutras and the Quaran.

 

[savagewind]

 

[Riders]

Wow this seems to have become a debate about to post the right way.

Well this is just a way to avoid the true topic.

There is no response to either my or Evangelicalhumanists actual point.

 

[savagewind]

And? Are you surprised?

 

[Vee]

What point are you trying to make about how much more special your chosen book is than any of those others -- which are also still with us?

Some books older than the Bible still exist, that's a fact. I didn't deny that with my post. However, none of them suffered the same opposition as the Bible and none of them had the impact the Bible had and still has in society. They have their value in literature but I wouldn't compare what can't be compared.

 

[Riders]

Some books older than the Bible still exist, that's a fact. I didn't deny that with my post. However, none of them suffered the same opposition as the Bible and none of them had the impact the Bible had and still has in society. They have their value in literature but I wouldn't compare what can't be compared.

I' sure the Quaran has had plenty of opposition.

But I read a websight that says the Quaran has gone global.

It also says it' a rival for the bible as far as ts impact.

So I would disagree with you where the Quaran is concerned

 

[kjw47]

Why do you do that? Someone says something and you say, "trinity".
You said that God makes the light brighter.
God does not make the light brighter. As a person gets closer to the light it appears TO HIM brighter. Getting closer to God is what makes the light brighter.
Individuals get closer. Not groups going as one.

The bible teaches all true followers will be one--in Love, peace, unity of thought.

 

[kjw47]

Oh, so they didn't teach about "love thy neighbor"? love of God? acting morally? praying to God? acting out of compassion for all?

What kind of places did you walk into? opium dens? topless bars? KKK meetings?

They do teach some of what he taught but not all like this super important teaching-- Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God--that's-OT-NT--over and over it never stops. All can look at their teachers and see if Every utterance is being taught to them or a regimen of verses done weekly year after year--this is what the real teachers of Jesus does. Because they learn and apply every teaching Jesus gave to us--not one is missed.

 

[savagewind]

The bible teaches all true followers will be one--in Love, peace, unity of thought.

It does not say what thoughts though. Your teachers say it is every thought. Why do they say that?
How do you know it isn't to be united in just the thoughts of Jesus?

 

[kjw47]

Apparently this darkness is doing the same to your Governing Board otherwise they wouldn't keep changing it.

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Wouldn't it be better for them to be "discreet" and get back to us once they have enough light to see? I think shouting "truth" when you don't actually have all the facts is presumptuous, and not a pastime a "discreet" slave would engage in.

What do you think?

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Until it was the proper time--none knew the truths on certain matters--especially these( Dan 12:4) but since corrections have been made here in these last days truth is now abundant as Dan 12:4 assures will occur.

 

[kjw47]

It does not say what thoughts though. Your teachers say it is every thought. Why do they say that?
How do you know it isn't to be united in just the thoughts of Jesus?

Jesus answered you already---Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God)-as truth-John 4:22-24--it is Gods will.