Let’s talk about the Bible

[savagewind]

I suspect that Daniel 2:44 did not say "it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, but it shall stand for ever"

But that it said, "it shall be broken and consumed by all these kingdoms, but it shall stand forever".

Why do I think so? Because I can see that it has been broken and consumed. Tell me, where is God's Kingdom that I can find it?
It stands forever in only the people who believe it.



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[savagewind]

There is another reason why I think Daniel wrote "it (God's Kingdom [of the Earth]) will be broken and consumed. It seems to me that God has never had God's way about much since the beginning.
Then all of a sudden, God will have God's way? That is what you all believe. And, I'm nuts?

 

[DavidFirth]

There is another reason why I think Daniel wrote "it (God's Kingdom [of the Earth]) will be broken and consumed. It seems to me that God has never had God's way about much since the beginning.
Then all of a sudden, God will have God's way? That is what you all believe. And, I'm nuts?

God always has His way, He is absolutely omnipotent. It is God's will that the prince of the power of the air (the devil) rule this world. Because we chose him instead of God when we chose our own will over God's will. But God will judge the devil and all those who do evil in His sight. In the end God will destroy the heavens and the Earth, then He will create a new heaven and a new Earth, just as it is written.

 

[savagewind]

God always has His way,

I can't believe that.

 

[DavidFirth]

I can't believe that.

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Noted. But if it is true you haven't affected the truth at all, you have only affected yourself by disbelieving it.

 

[JJ50]

God always has His way, He is absolutely omnipotent. It is God's will that the prince of the power of the air (the devil) rule this world. Because we chose him instead of God when we chose our own will over God's will. But God will judge the devil and all those who do evil in His sight. In the end God will destroy the heavens and the Earth, then He will create a new heaven and a new Earth, just as it is written.

Really? And what evidence is there for those assertions, the Bible is NOT evidence.

 

[savagewind]

Noted. But if it is true you haven't affected the truth at all, you have only affected yourself by disbelieving it.

Please listen to yourself. Not.....the way you are listening. Meditate on what you just said. What does it even mean?

If, like you say," God always has his way"* then God killed Abel. Not only that, but then goes on to say that WE should not murder.

*It is my opinion that God is not pleased to be referred to as "he".

 

[DavidFirth]

Really? And what evidence is there for those assertions, the Bible is NOT evidence.

It's obvious.

 

[DavidFirth]

Please listen to yourself. Not.....the way you are listening. Meditate on what you just said. What does it even mean?

If, like you say," God always has his way"* then God killed Abel. Not only that, but then goes on to say that WE should not murder.

*It is my opinion that God is not pleased to be referred to as "he".

No, but God allowed Cain to kill Abel. God allows free will.

 

[savagewind]

God always has His way, He is absolutely omnipotent. It is God's will that the prince of the power of the air (the devil) rule this world. Because we chose him instead of God when we chose our own will over God's will. But God will judge the devil and all those who do evil in His sight. In the end God will destroy the heavens and the Earth, then He will create a new heaven and a new Earth, just as it is written.

No, God won't do it. Where does it say that God is going to give you and your kind a new Earth?

 

[savagewind]

No, but God allowed Cain to kill Abel. God allows free will.

You can't believe both. God can't always get God's way and also allow such things.

 

[DavidFirth]

No, God won't do it. Where does it say that God is going to give you and your kind a new Earth?

Revelation. And it does not specifically mention "me" and "my kind" and neither did I. That is something you elected to add to what I said.

 

[DavidFirth]

You can't believe both. God can't always get God's way and also allow such things.

You're wrong. Period. It is God's will that you have choices. That's why you have them.

 

[savagewind]

@DavidFirth Do you realize that you "liked" the post about my idea that the Bible is wrong? LOL
Why did you do that?

 

[JJ50]

Really? And what evidence is there for those assertions, the Bible is NOT evidence.

Surely if a god did exist it wouldn't have all the worst human characteristics the character in the Bible displays. The mythical Satan could be no worse.

 

[savagewind]

Revelation. And it does not specifically mention "me" and "my kind" and neither did I. That is something you elected to add to what I said.

I said so because you have put YOUR OWN meaning to it.

 

[DavidFirth]

@DavidFirth Do you realize that you "liked" the post about my idea that the Bible is wrong? LOL
Why did you do that?

I don't recall. What's the post number?

 

[DavidFirth]

I said so because you have put YOUR OWN meaning to it.

No, I didn't. I didn't add to what the Bible says. At all.

 

[savagewind]

I don't recall. What's the post number?

301 Let’s talk about the Bible

 

[DavidFirth]

301 Let’s talk about the Bible

I found it. After further review, I have deleted the like. Thank you for pointing out that I had misunderstood what you had said.