Sultan Of Swing
Well-Known Member
Adam and Eve were made good. That didn't stop them from making their own decision to renounce God, that's true. From a Biblical perspective I don't think I can say with certainty exactly what 'being good' entailed for Adam and Eve specifically. For the Christian we attain the righteousness of Jesus, who died for us, so that in God's eyes we are truly righteous, even though everything we do is not always righteous, thanks to the remnants of sin in our lives.I'm not sure you're getting my point.
When we decide to do an act, first we make the decision, and then we act on the decision. Adam and Eve were good until they weren't - i.e until they acted on the decision - so when they made the decision, they were still good.
... or to look at it another way: if "being good" isn't enough to stop a person from renouncing good, what exactly does "being good" entail?
Permitting something to happen doesn't make you directly responsible for it, that lies with the wrongdoer.Actually, I'd say that he's responsible for every specific evil that he intended. If it was part of God's plan, God's responsible.
... and if evil happens that isn't part of God's plan, then this undermines God's sovereignty.
And there's no such thing as "evil for the sake of good" when we're dealing with an omnipotent god. If God can do everything, then God can cause good without causing evil (since causing good without causing evil is part of "everything").
In a diamond store they place the diamonds on a black cloth to make them shine brighter, and they really do shine brighter. God's plan incorporates evil (but doesn't directly cause it) and makes His own glory shine all the more brightly.
The debt is paid. If a debt is cancelled, that still incurs a loss on the lender of that money of the same amount.No, it isn't. When a punishment is cancelled, it's cancelled... not inflicted on someone else.
When a pardon is issued and a person is let out of jail early, the official granting the pardon doesn't serve the remaining sentence in the name of "justice".