Italy: Far-Right Prime Minister's Attack on LGBT Rights

[Revoltingest]

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God's law against heathens, homosexuals, lust, capitalism, & interfering with Putin's ambitions.

 

[PureX]

The bigots in the U. S. embolden the bigots around the world.

... Why we really need to stop electing bigots.

 

[ChristineM]

.I don't think that creating babies through alternatives methods is a good idea. Just that.

My 3 child are here because of "alternative" methods. Thanks for your support.

 

[Estro Felino]

My 3 child are here because of "alternative" methods. Thanks for your support.

I meant by homosexual couples only.

 

[ChristineM]

I meant by homosexual couples only.

Can't beat being selective eh?

I guess that makes it all ok then

 

[Estro Felino]

Can't beat being selective eh?

For instance the Italian State establishes that transsexual people are not meant to be biological parents.
They can't obtain the legal gender change unless they undergo surgery that sterilizes them.

We avoid confusions and ambiguity by being that inflexible.

 

[ChristineM]

For instance the Italian State establishes that transsexuals people are not meant to be biological parents.
They can't obtain the legal gender change unless they undergo surgery that sterilizes them.

We avoid confusions and ambiguity by being that inflexible.

Or you cause confusion and anger by limiting a whole class of people. Surely all are equal unless bigotry is used to impose Christianity

 

[Father Heathen]

And secularly, the law necessarily means to discourage homosexuals and transsexuals from being parents.
For countless reasons, which involve a secular mindset and not a religious one.

But there exist no rational, real world justification for doing so, only garbage superstitious/religious ones that have no place in a society that values rights, freedom, equality, and justice.

The self-loathing you hold in your heart makes me feel truly sorry for you. Please get well soon.

 

[Father Heathen]

For instance the Italian State establishes that transsexuals people are not meant to be biological parents.
They can't obtain the legal gender change unless they undergo surgery that sterilizes them.

We avoid confusions and ambiguity by being that inflexible.

Maybe a more enlightened neighbor should annex and govern Italy.

 

[Altfish]

I meant by homosexual couples only.

My beautiful grand daughters would not exist in your cruel world

 

[Estro Felino]

Maybe a more enlightened neighbor should annex and govern Italy.

Russia?

 

[Estro Felino]

My beautiful grand daughters would not exist in your cruel world

I respect everyone...but as a jurist I think the law rightfully discourages homosexuals and transsexuals from becoming parents naturally.
But I am for adoptions for these two categories of people, so there is always a solution.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

For instance the Italian State establishes that transsexuals people are not meant to be biological parents.
They can't obtain the legal gender change unless they undergo surgery that sterilizes them.

We avoid confusions and ambiguity by being that inflexible.

Yet the Italian State establishes that heterosexuals who are, for whatever reason, sterile may well be "meant to be biological parents," and frames laws to enable that through adoption, for example. This is logically untenable.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I respect everyone...but as a jurist I think the law rightfully discourages homosexuals and transsexuals from becoming parents naturally.
But I am for adoptions for these two categories of people, so there is always a solution.

You say you are "for adoption for these two categories," but that is precisely what this thread is about -- the law that says one (at least) of the partners cannot be considered a "parent," adoption or no.

 

[Father Heathen]

Russia?

Nah, I would want you to be safe and to have rights. It's sad that you don't even want that for yourself.

 

[Altfish]

I respect everyone...but as a jurist I think the law rightfully discourages homosexuals and transsexuals from becoming parents naturally.
But I am for adoptions for these two categories of people, so there is always a solution.

What has you being a jurist got to do with it?
You have a cruel mind that says that my grandchildren shouldn't exist.

 

[Estro Felino]

You say you are "for adoption for these two categories," but that is precisely what this thread is about -- the law that says one (at least) of the partners cannot be considered a "parent," adoption or no.

This law involves surrogate pregnancy, mainly.
That is, many Italian LGBTs go abroad, pay a woman so she carries out a surrogate pregnancy and then they come back with the product, that is, the baby they purchased.
The Italian Government will deny these babies the anagraphical registration.
That in order to discourage such a practice.

 

[Estro Felino]

What has you being a jurist got to do with it?
You have a cruel mind that says that my grandchildren shouldn't exist.

I have never said that.

 

[Left Coast]

"Italy's right-wing government instructed Milan's city council to stop registering the children of same-sex parents, reigniting a debate around Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's conservative agenda.
Families, activists and political opponents are to protest against the ban in Milan on Saturday.
Ms Meloni, who leads the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBT rhetoric a cornerstone of her electoral campaign, promising to protect traditional values."

- Italy leaves children of same-sex parents in limbo

Who needs equality? Catholics and Conservatives Unite!

It's easy to forget how many conservatives in the world would reverse so much of the progress that's been made on LGBTQ rights if they had the power.

 

[ChristineM]

It's easy to forget how many conservatives in the world would reverse so much of the progress that's been made on LGBTQ rights if they had the power.

Its truly frightening and unfortunately is happening.