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Israel could bar entry for Reps. Omar and Tlaib

Stevicus

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Israel considers banning entry to outspoken US congresswomen

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's prime minister and other top officials were meeting on Thursday to reevaluate the decision to allow two Democratic congresswomen who support the Palestinian-led boycott movement to enter the country next week.

An Israeli official said they were meeting about an upcoming visit by Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. The newly-elected Muslim members of Congress are outspoken critics of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Tlaib's family immigrated to the United States from the West Bank.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with regulations, said "there is a possibility that Israel will not allow the visit in its current proposed format."
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The article says this also points up the divisions within the Democratic Party over Israel.

A decision to ban the congresswomen could further sharpen divisions among U.S. Democrats over Israel ahead of the 2020 elections. Republicans have amplified the views of left-wing Democrats like Tlaib and Omar to present the party as deeply divided and at odds with Israel. Democratic leaders have pushed back, reiterating the party's strong support for Israel, in part to protect representatives from more conservative districts.
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oldbadger

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No free speech in Israel, then?

If our Mr Corbyn or the Labour party mention anything about this kind of attitude to foreign reps he will get hit with the usual 'antiSemitism' tag as usual.

I just hope that the UN can stop being so weak about the situation.
 
shmogie

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oldbadger said:
No free speech in Israel, then?

If our Mr Corbyn or the Labour party mention anything about this kind of attitude to foreign reps he will get hit with the usual 'antiSemitism' tag as usual.

I just hope that the UN can stop being so weak about the situation.
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The UN is weak about every situation.
 
Windwalker

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shmogie said:
They should ban them. It is their country and declared enemies have no business there.
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So, being critical of a nation's policies makes someone a "declared enemy"??? Does this mean that American citizens who are critical of the United States Government are "declared enemies" of the state? God help us all, if this is what America is becoming. :(
 
rosends

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Revoltingest said:
They have plenty'o free speech...unless you disagree with government.
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Disagreeing with the government is actually a national past time in Israel. The American notion of "free speech" is actually something which is local (in the popularly understood form) to the US. Other countries have a variety of different rules and understandings of "free" speech.

Freedom of speech by country - Wikipedia
 
rosends

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Labourwave said:
Did you actually read any of the things on the US list?

If your best defense of any policy is pointing out that America has done a similar thing, you are not in good company.
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Yes, I read it, plus the things that other countries use as their reasoning. The point is that the company Israel is in is effectively "the whole world." So criticizing Israel for a policy that most every country has to one degree or another seems a bit wrong. If your concern is about ideological reasons for barring entry then how about

Jolly ol' England
Holocaust denier Mark Weber banned from entering U.K. for "unacceptable" behavior

France
The 'global mufti' Sarkozy barred from entering France
 
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oldbadger

oldbadger

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rosends said:
Yes, I read it, plus the things that other countries use as their reasoning. The point is that the company Israel is in is effectively "the whole world." So criticizing Israel for a policy that most every country has to one degree or another seems a bit wrong. If your concern is about ideological reasons for barring entry then how about

Jolly ol' England
Holocaust denier Mark Weber banned from entering U.K. for "unacceptable" behavior

France
The 'global mufti' Sarkozy barred from entering France
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Ah.... come on.....
Israel has been pressured by Mr Trump.
Israel wouldn't want to annoy Mr Trump, surely?

Here is a Tweet from the President of the United States, who doesn't like these Congressmembers:-

It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!

A bit over the top, wouldn't you say? :p
 
Nakosis

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Stevicus said:
Israel considers banning entry to outspoken US congresswomen



The article says this also points up the divisions within the Democratic Party over Israel.
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With the US media focus these two have, it could end up generating a lot of bad press for Israel. Regardless of how well they are treated, it's going to turn out bad for Israel.

If they were going to discuss issues, help with solutions, great. If they are going there to generate more anti-Israel stories to support their narrative, not so great.
 
Nakosis

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oldbadger said:
Ah.... come on.....
Israel has been pressured by Mr Trump.
Israel wouldn't want to annoy Mr Trump, surely?

Here is a Tweet from the President of the United States, who doesn't like these Congressmembers:-

It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!

A bit over the top, wouldn't you say? :p
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Yeah, I wish he wouldn't.
 
rosends

rosends

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oldbadger said:
Ah.... come on.....
Israel has been pressured by Mr Trump.
Israel wouldn't want to annoy Mr Trump, surely?

Here is a Tweet from the President of the United States, who doesn't like these Congressmembers:-

It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!

A bit over the top, wouldn't you say? :p
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The law has been on the books for a couple of years. The question was whether the Israeli government would make an exception for them.
Amendment No. 27 to the Entry Into Israel Law - Wikipedia

It isn't just the President who doesn't like them, by the way.
 
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