Is the USA a Christian nation?

[Jeremiah Ames]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Especially in light of Romans 13:1-5:

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Read verse 3 again. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right.
The American colonists came to America to escape religious tyranny, but it followed them.
They did what is right but were still under oppression. They had to revolt to be free.
Not only is revolution against the teachings of Paul, but his own statements are shown to be untrue in light of life in the colonies prior to the revolution.

And the following is written by the same person, who now tells us all scripture is God’s word:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How does a person reconcile all these conflicting statements?

 

[Rational Agnostic]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Especially in light of Romans 13:1-5:

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Read verse 3 again. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right.
The American colonists came to America to escape religious tyranny, but it followed them.
They did what is right but were still under oppression. They had to revolt to be free.
Not only is revolution against the teachings of Paul, but his own statements are shown to be untrue in light of life in the colonies prior to the revolution.

And the following is written by the same person, who now tells us all scripture is God’s word:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How does a person reconcile all these conflicting statements?

No, the USA was never meant to be a Christian nation; it was established as a secular state. Thomas Jefferson once stated "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Sure doesn't sound like a "Christian" founding father to me.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

No. It is not and it never was. The founders and the subsequent people who followed Christianity were never "christ like" because the founders wanted to escape a monarchy.

This ought to be a secular nation that invites all peoples of different faiths so as to alleviate us the ignorance of a singularity of minds. I don't care for the In God we trust on our currency and I believe in God. We need to make a place for all people of different faiths.

 

[Revoltingest]

Americastan is not Xian....either in law or in practice.

 

[suncowiam]

Yes and No.

It votes this way from time to time, although others have noted it should not be due to the secular policies. Some pockets are much more Christian than other because Christians come to power.

 

[Father Heathen]

"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." - John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Thomas Jefferson, in a letter referencing The first Amendment of The U.S. Constitution

 

[idav]

If we are asking what the US founding fathers were, they were probably deists, big on not believing the miracle stuff.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Regarding whether America is a Christian nation or not, that's pretty easy: It is a nation that has always had a Christian majority, although that will be changing in about 20-25 years (extrapolating the trends of the last 27 years), with a secular government on paper, and a nearly secular government in practice.

The Constitution not only doesn't establish the US as a Christian nation, it's provisions are antithetical or indifferent to several commandments.

It grants freedom from religion in contrast to a commandment to obey the god of the Old Testament, grants free speech including the right to take the Lord's name in vain and to blaspheme, does not prohibit working on the Sabbath, is indifferent regarding honoring parents, has no problem with false idols, etc..

America was born in defiance of Christian principles. Rebelling against an established government, especially against a Christian king, is explicitly by the Christian god's commandments:

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."- Romans 13:1-2​

 

[Jainarayan]

The US is a country largely of Christians but it is not a Christian country.

 

[sun rise]

The first settlers in what would become the USA were trying to found a perfect religious settlement in the north and to establish a colony for commerce in the south.

So to me it's most accurate to say that the USA is not a Christian nation but there is some Christian "DNA" in its blood along with many Americans being Christian.

 

[Alucard]

Regarding whether America is a Christian nation or not, that's pretty easy: It is a nation that has always had a Christian majority, although that will be changing in about 20-25 years (extrapolating the trends of the last 27 years), with a secular government on paper, and a nearly secular government in practice.

The Constitution not only doesn't establish the US as a Christian nation, it's provisions are antithetical or indifferent to several commandments.

It grants freedom from religion in contrast to a commandment to obey the god of the Old Testament, grants free speech including the right to take the Lord's name in vain and to blaspheme, does not prohibit working on the Sabbath, is indifferent regarding honoring parents, has no problem with false idols, etc..

America was born in defiance of Christian principles. Rebelling against an established government, especially against a Christian king, is explicitly by the Christian god's commandments:

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."- Romans 13:1-2​

I agree Good points

 

[David T]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Especially in light of Romans 13:1-5:

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Read verse 3 again. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right.
The American colonists came to America to escape religious tyranny, but it followed them.
They did what is right but were still under oppression. They had to revolt to be free.
Not only is revolution against the teachings of Paul, but his own statements are shown to be untrue in light of life in the colonies prior to the revolution.

And the following is written by the same person, who now tells us all scripture is God’s word:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How does a person reconcile all these conflicting statements?

Is India a hindu nation? I mean it's extremely modern "Christian" to believe that ideas are fundemental. Christianity today is defined by "my cranium" determines. So I could say "my cranium" determines I am a Christian is equal to " my cranium" determines I am a not a christian. Is one "my cranium determines"more or less valid than the other? I don't know since I see no difference at all. So are we a" my cranium determines" nation? Absolutely and that's called "normal" .... Seems like a mental disorder to me but I am not normal, unfortunately l am just jealous... Grass is always greener on the septic tank.

 

[Revoltingest]

Grass is always greener on the septic tank.

This is only true if the tank is regularly overflowing.
Been there & done that. Not recommended.
Have a new field now. Smells much better.

 

[Twilight Hue]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Especially in light of Romans 13:1-5:

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Read verse 3 again. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right.
The American colonists came to America to escape religious tyranny, but it followed them.
They did what is right but were still under oppression. They had to revolt to be free.
Not only is revolution against the teachings of Paul, but his own statements are shown to be untrue in light of life in the colonies prior to the revolution.

And the following is written by the same person, who now tells us all scripture is God’s word:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How does a person reconcile all these conflicting statements?

All of the institution involving subjugation to authority established as a representation of God leads me more and more to believe Christianity was an invention of the Romans.

I think we're more akin to being a Roman Nation than a Christian Nation.

 

[Altfish]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Especially in light of Romans 13:1-5:

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Read verse 3 again. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right.
The American colonists came to America to escape religious tyranny, but it followed them.
They did what is right but were still under oppression. They had to revolt to be free.
Not only is revolution against the teachings of Paul, but his own statements are shown to be untrue in light of life in the colonies prior to the revolution.

And the following is written by the same person, who now tells us all scripture is God’s word:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How does a person reconcile all these conflicting statements?

NO!!

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." - John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Thomas Jefferson, in a letter referencing The first Amendment of The U.S. Constitution

Well done

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

Regarding whether America is a Christian nation or not, that's pretty easy: It is a nation that has always had a Christian majority, although that will be changing in about 20-25 years (extrapolating the trends of the last 27 years), with a secular government on paper, and a nearly secular government in practice.

The Constitution not only doesn't establish the US as a Christian nation, it's provisions are antithetical or indifferent to several commandments.

It grants freedom from religion in contrast to a commandment to obey the god of the Old Testament, grants free speech including the right to take the Lord's name in vain and to blaspheme, does not prohibit working on the Sabbath, is indifferent regarding honoring parents, has no problem with false idols, etc..

America was born in defiance of Christian principles. Rebelling against an established government, especially against a Christian king, is explicitly by the Christian god's commandments:

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."- Romans 13:1-2​

My concern in regards to the change you see coming, is that the change seems to have been given a serious setback since last November.

 

[Jainarayan]

Is India a hindu nation?

Officially no.

 

[David T]

This is only true if the tank is regularly overflowing.
Been there & done that. Not recommended.
Have a new field now. Smells much better.

I always appreciate the funny side of you and yet so true!!!

 

[David T]

Officially no.

That's like wearing an hindu head wrap claiming it's a fashion style and has nothing to with being a hindu!!