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Featured Is modern science informing us of a spiritual reality?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by osgart, Jun 29, 2018.

  1. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Or does modern science create the possibility that there is a spiritual reality?

    Or is it hands off on the matter with no way to rule in or out the spiritual reality?
     
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  2. Audie

    Audie Well-Known Member

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    What is "spiritual reality"?
     
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  3. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    A spiritual reality is a reality that is perhaps non physical, or perhaps not, where the life essence resides. It can be a natural or supernatural force.
     
  4. Audie

    Audie Well-Known Member

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    That will not get a nsf grant
     
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  5. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    I realize that. That comes from the stance that everything that exists is material.
     
  6. Cobol

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    Observation of experiment. and the development of falsifiable hypotheses, and the relentless questioning of established views—have proven uniquely powerful in revealing the surprising, underlying structure of the world we live in, including subatomic particles, the role of germs in the spread of disease, and the neural basis of mental life.

    Spirituality has no equivalent record of discovering hidden truths.

    Science and religion are as different as can be.
     
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  7. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Even being that spirit reality was true, it would be the most impossible thing to detect.

    Even finding all the neural correlates of consciousness, consciousness is still left unexplained.
     
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  8. Audie

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    Show me an idiot so dimwitted as to think that.

    ANYWAY I said that because your explanation is
    just vague empty words. Nothing there.
     
  9. Cobol

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    Science can and does explain consciousness to an extent, and will do more of that in the future.
     
  10. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    So what do you say? Are there things non material?
     
  11. YeshuaBought

    YeshuaBought I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    Yes. I have learned a lot about my own health issues from science.
     
  12. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    That would be a, if not the requirement for existence don't you think?
     
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  13. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    Mainstream science should still be agnostic on the question of a spiritual reality.

    However I do see a more moving away from the mechanical understanding (allowing for spiritual realities) since the general acceptance of quantum mechanics, multiple dimensions, acceptance that consciousness is not yet understood, etc..
     
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  14. Quintessence

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    The sciences cannot and do not study what you call "spiritual reality." It's one of its limitations as a set of disciplines. Methodological naturalism is inherent to the sciences, and studying "spiritual reality" necessarily violates that method.
     
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  15. Audie

    Audie Well-Known Member

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    Not to just be rude, but can you read for content?

    Never mind, nothing here. / thread
     
  16. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    I think things like quantum entanglement defy physical description. Im open to the possibility of something more. But who knows.
     
  17. Mox

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    Do you mean has modern science unearthed any evidence for realities beyond that of our own spacetime, which we could measure and observe or infer? If so, then not exactly. Hypothesis of extra dimensional frames of reference, many worlds and multiverses etc..do exist.
     
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    Mox Dr Green Fingers

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    ''Spooky action at a distance'' Einstein talking about entanglement.
     
  19. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Ho hum
     
  20. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I don't think that's quite what they're doing.

    There's still the requirement of the interaction with matter regardless.
     
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