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Featured Is blind faith right faith?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Amanaki, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. Amanaki

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    Ok maybe it is strange of me to ask this question but.

    Is blind faith right faith? Even if we cultivate a spiritual teaching, would it not be wise of us to think somewhat for our self?

    Can we gain any wisdom from the teaching if all we do is blindly believe it, without asking our self ( not others) about the teaching?

    Personally when I read the teaching I cultivate I ask my self many questions, because I can not know for sure what our teacher meant in every word. That is a part of the cultuvation. It's a part of the way to go from novice to wise.

    And yes in the process of discussing with others I might say wrong, because I did not memorize or understand my self fully the teaching.

    But if you blindly believe, have you learned anything to make you a wise person?
     
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    No. Studying is key, imo.
     
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  3. SalixIncendium

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    In my experience, blindly following anything does not lead to wisdom.
     
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    I worship and believe in the One I see as the Source of Everything as a result of experience and faith. Label me as you see fit.
    Faith is necessary to make sure you keep doing "the right thing". The study of scriptures/teachings can help you to find "the right thing".
     
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  5. Valjean

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    Of course it's right faith!
    If faith is not blind, if it's open to change and amenable to new information or reason, it's not "faith."
    ;)
     
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    Depends on context.

    Where blind faith is applied as an excuse to avoid effort, that doesn't cultivate character. However, where blind faith is applied as an admission of one's own personal limitations? That's another story.

    There always comes points in life where one must admit one's limits as well as acknowledge one's potential. Sometimes, asking questions is a good course. Other times, it is not. Wisdom, perhaps, would be knowing when it is good to apply which strategy.
     
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    I don't think faith is blind. Faith is based on a promise. IMO, blindness is based on presumption
     
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    What is it that makes you believe the promise?
     
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    Faith. :D
     
  10. Valjean

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    What promise? The promise is part of the faith.
     
  11. Valjean

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    I'm getting dizzy...
     
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  12. KenS

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    In the Christian understanding and in my experience it started as:

    1) in that I knew absolutely nothing about the Bible, I started with the thought "It is either true or false, it can't be both. I am going to start with it being true and I'll test the sucker and find out soon enough it is false".
    2) then it progressed into a life change that awakened something where I knew there was a God that put a hunger to search the scriptures (with a ton of questions)
    3) From there it was actual experiences that enhanced my faith
    4) From there is was knowledge - and the veracity of the prophetic word.

    In a practical sense, the more you interact with a person (any person) the more you trust their word or don't trust their word. You can actually get to a place where you say of a friend, "I he says he will do it, I can trust him".
     
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    What is the criteria for determining a faith "right" or "wrong"?
     
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    I believe that is described in each teaching of the different religions and spiritual teachings. Personally I can not answer for everybody :)
    So the right way to understand faith is described differently from path to path or teach to teaching.
     
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    Fair enough.

    So why did you not present YOUR criteria?
     
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    Because my faith is only relevant to me :) I have my own understanding of what is right or wrong action, speech and thoughts, but if you spoke with others who follow same teaching, they could see it differently then I do, due to what level of wisdom they have attained from the teaching.
     
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    Faith is faith. In my opinion it is not 'blind'.

    However, a lot of people confuse faith with blind pretense: the improvable and irrational presumption that what they believe to be true, is true, because they believe it to be.
     
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    Evidence.
     
  19. George-ananda

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    In religious matters I think the term 'blind faith' is derogatory. Traditions have people claiming direct experience so it's more like following people whose judgment you respect.
     
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    That is a very good answer :) thank you
     
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