In Detroit, our robbers are much more athletic.....a better class than you ran into in DC.
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Is America a Police state?
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Primordial Annihilator
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As I blame myself partly for the hollow spectre of it's former self that is the United Kingdom....
Primordial Annihilator
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Thats good to know...hopefully they will be more manly and pull out a knife instead...a man's weapon
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Yay!
I'm confused about one aspect of the story, though. The article said:
"You have the right, recognized by the TSA, to fly without showing ID. It happens all the time. We have a procedure for that, according to the lead TSA Travel Document Checker at the Albuquerque airport. Signs and announcements in airports saying that all passengers must present ID are false."
But I checked the TSA website, and it said, "Effective June 21, 2008, adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID that contains the following: name, date of birth, gender, expiration date and a tamper-resistant feature in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
Passengers who do not or cannot present an acceptable ID will have to provide information to the Transportation Security Officer performing Travel Document Checking duties in order to verify their identity. Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane."
I clicked on a link to view samples of acceptable documents in lieu of ID, and it looks like no matter what, a passenger has to somehow prove his or her identity. So do we have the right to fly without ID, or do we have the right to try (without being arrested), knowing we probably won't be allowed to?
You'll note their avoidance of addressing just who is doing the requiring.....
"Effective June 21, 2008, adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID that contains the following....."
I'm not familiar enuf to say what the law actually is, but I know weasel words when I hear them.
They get their way not by force of law, but rather by mutual assent of other authorities & their flock.
"Effective June 21, 2008, adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID that contains the following....."
I'm not familiar enuf to say what the law actually is, but I know weasel words when I hear them.
They get their way not by force of law, but rather by mutual assent of other authorities & their flock.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
I did notice that and wondered who was doing the requiring. I guess they can legally make you miss your flight by putting you through extra "screening" if you don't have ID?
It sounds like they make the decision to require what they want, & then use color of
authority to pretend it's law. If enuf people go along, then it has the effect of law,
while being illegal.
To answer the thread title, no, I don't think America would reasonably be considered a police state.
I do however think that many police officers are corrupt and inappropriate.
Yes, I was arrested once without committing a crime.
It didn't result in any legal issues but it was seriously inconveniencing.
It seems that peaceful protest is legal, so long as it isn't done in the presence of politicians.
Veterans For Peace is Proud of Ray McGovern | War Is A Crime .org
Veterans For Peace is Proud of Ray McGovern | War Is A Crime .org
Did IQs just drop recently?
Arvada Police arrest 11-year-old over 'inappropriate' stick figure drawing - KDVR
Arvada Police arrest 11-year-old over 'inappropriate' stick figure drawing - KDVR
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angellous_evangellous
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Probably not.
These people were probably just as stupid now as they were before this incident. Unless they all live near some chemical waste dump that has contaminated their water.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Ugh. Poor kid.
I just wonder what the arresting cops are like. Do they have children of their own?
Have they no empathy? Were I a prosecutor, I'd charge them with unlawful arrest.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Reminds me of a news story - and I've scoured Google, but can't find it know - of a kindergartner - may have even been a preschooler - who was expelled or arrested for "fondling" a teacher. He liked her breasts. Come ON!
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angellous_evangellous
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angellous_evangellous
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Honestly, that sounds like an urban legend to me.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Yes, but I swear it was on our local news. Kindergartner got in trouble for touching a teacher inappropriately. I've got to find this story now....I'm sure he wasn't arrested, but it was some kind of drastic punishment.
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angellous_evangellous
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Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find it.
If it was in the local news, did it happen locally?
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
It must have, Angellous. Damn my memory. It was a big deal briefly. I just can't find it. I swear I didn't make this up. Look at the pretty colors....
So I've googled several different search terms, looked up a local newspaper archive, and nothing. WTH?
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angellous_evangellous
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I'd go to the website of the news station that you usually watch and see if they have searchable archives. Because (IMHO) it can go from pre-school to 7th grade, I'd search for "breast" and "teacher" together, maybe add "student." Those search terms should make it easier to find.