Shaiva
Shaiva
One coin, two sides (so to speak).
BINGO! Basically one is Shiva Tattva (pure "I") and Shakti-Tattva is the mirror. But, both are two sides of Parama Shiva, the Absolute Being, or "I", beyond all description.
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One coin, two sides (so to speak).
BINGO! Basically one is Shiva Tattva (pure "I") and Shakti-Tattva is the mirror. But, both are two sides of Parama Shiva, the Absolute Being, or "I", beyond all description.
IMO, it seems to be saying that it is unintelligent to think that Krishna ever 'became' manifest- for the manifest is eternal (without birth or death). Only the 'unintelligent' believe that the manifest comes from the unmanifest.
Whether God is form or formless or both or neither is important for some reasons, and unimportant for other. I think that our conceptualisation of the Divine influences our forms of worship or practices in striving for Realisation.
- Which came first: ‘Consciousness’ or ‘Un-Consciousness’?
- Do both “Consciousness and Un-Consciousness” simply exist side-by-side, always?
- Do we ‘souls’ vacillate between ‘Consciousness’ and/or ‘Un-Consciousness’ always, in samsara?
- Are such endless vacillations in samsara a ‘Sad*’ thing?[*One of the 4 Emotions: Sad, glad, mad, afraid]
- Does the repeated expense of time & effort, in samsara, reward us? En-mass? In any real tangible everlasting way, ever?
Friends,
Anyone near understanding???
Love & rgds
How much stock do you place in the Bhagavad Gita and what do you make of chapter 7 verse 24:
"Unintelligent men, who do not know me perfectly, think that I, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna, was impersonal before and have now assumed this personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is imperishable and supreme"
This is of course from Prabhupad's Gita and there could be a translation that does not heavily emphasise the words 'unintelligent' and 'small knowledge'.
But nevertheless, what are your thoughts or interpretation?
I found this quote cited on another Web SIte:
Thankyou for your intellectual accumen, Keiserose,
BTW regarding your statement:
"The question is flawed"
I must correct you, The question is ingenious. That's my well-considered opinion.
best regards,
Bhaktajan the Hare Krishna
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There is no such thing as Un-consciousness???
Maybe that is for you to know and for others to find out?
I agree, in the ultimate sense. But Sambhutam & vinesam exists side by side. Animate (conscious) & inanimate (un-conscious) exist side by side.
Enlightenment and gross-ignorance exist side by side.
Out of that eternal nothingness [stillness] came . . .
the underlying stillness [consciousness]
Advaita (Oneness) is a sentiment that does not require hundreds of books and verses to arrive at.
Such so-called one-ness is borne of political schemes only ---IE: the unity of Ruler and the ruled.
Advaita-Philosophy is simplistic Philosophical sentiment inre to the seekers "Oneness" with the creation.
The simplistic Philosophical sentiment that "all is One" is true for any pedestrian.
Advaita is not a revelation ---its common sense dressed in flowery words that yield self-angrandisement only.
How many verses is required before one conceeds that "All is One" ---it's poetry masquerading as a sort of calculus of Hindu Philosophy ---when upon review, it's just unending narratives of "Oneness".
Sankara-acharya, was a brahmacari Pundit etc.
Reading his Pontifications does not make one an expert on Hindu Metaphysics.
It just makes one feel at ease because they are informed of the 'inert' "Oneness" underlying all of the phantasmagoria of karmic activity in the Creation.
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I don't think you are alone. Do you feel alone in your perception of truth?
Consciousness is not yet known to be a characteristic of inanimated states of Gas and atomic elements.
I would say that the characteristic of "Consciousness" possesses pre-atomic properties; "Consciousness" is more subtle than "eternal nothingness [stillness]".
Yet, I would conceed that "Consciousness" exists surrounded by "eternal nothingness [stillness]".
Friend Onkara,
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, Oneness is Also Aloneness!!!!!!!!!!!
Love & rgds
I agree, my mindless friend. Aloneness is ALL-ONE-NESS. There is no other...Friend kriya Yogi,
You are mixing Aloneness with LONLINESS.
Aloneness is when there is no other, its all ONE!
Love & rgds
Friend kriya Yogi,
You are mixing Aloneness with LONLINESS.
Aloneness is when there is no other, its all ONE!
Love & rgds
Aloneness is when there is no other, its all ONE!