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If God is the most merciful & compassionate

atmarama

atmarama

Struggling Spiritualist
sandy whitelinger said:
If being supremly merciful means sending Christ then you answered your own question, yet I do not think this is what you mean and still have not quantitatively defined the term.
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Supremely merciful means not sending folks to hell because they didn't believe....
 
PolyHedral

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
This must be a recurring trend, since I've seen it a lot: Someone makes a questionable statement, waits for someone to question it without restating the context, and then gives a general reply that doesn't include the context of the original statement, and so is entirely useless.

Sandy, why is the statement
god/faith is the byproduct of insecurity.
insecurity stems from fear
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deficient in worldly wisdom and/or informed judgement?
 
Breathe

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Midnight Pete said:
To be fair, your mother cannot see all nor does she know all. Your mother is not the Creator of the universe with a vested interest in mankind and a long view of human affairs.
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And she still doesn't attempt to punish me in an eternity of agony, and wouldn't even if she could. Are you saying my mother is more merciful than God?

And if she could and did, I would not consider her to be even remotely merciful.
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
sandy whitelinger said:
It's deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment.
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well in the context of the post i responded too...

JustWondering said:
I'd have to say the average smoe is more merciful than god. I've never participated in genocide or killing babies for instance but god has.
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waitasec said:
how true...

god/faith is the byproduct of insecurity.
insecurity stems from fear
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please explain why the god in the bible is a merciful god if god
condoned rape, slavery human trafficking, gender inequality?
seems to me, or any other rational person, this "supreme being" is a byproduct of fear...created in the image of man

your reaction was of a defensive nature and you had no alternative response because of your fear of rational thinking... this statement wasn't against you, was it...? so why take it so personally and insult someone you don't even know? if god is what you claim then god would be bigger then this and wouldn't subscribe in this school yard type of reaction...
unless of course, god is insecure and would react in such a way

:facepalm:
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
PolyHedral said:
This must be a recurring trend, since I've seen it a lot: Someone makes a questionable statement, waits for someone to question it without restating the context, and then gives a general reply that doesn't include the context of the original statement, and so is entirely useless.

Sandy, why is the statement
deficient in worldly wisdom and/or informed judgement?
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Because it's a general statement that seems to only offer the posters concept of what faith is.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
waitasec said:
well in the context of the post i responded too...





please explain why the god in the bible is a merciful god if god
condoned rape, slavery human trafficking, gender inequality?
seems to me, or any other rational person, this "supreme being" is a byproduct of fear...created in the image of man

your reaction was of a defensive nature and you had no alternative response because of your fear of rational thinking... this statement wasn't against you, was it...? so why take it so personally and insult someone you don't even know? if god is what you claim then god would be bigger then this and wouldn't subscribe in this school yard type of reaction...
unless of course, god is insecure and would react in such a way

:facepalm:
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Blah, blah, blah.
 
Zadok

Zadok

Zadok
atmarama said:
Dear fellow spiritualists,

This is a question that I have never understood the answer to within the christian & islamic faiths specifically. That if one does not "accept", "believe" or "follow" a particular religion then they will go to hell for all eternity. A punishment seemingly MUCH worse than any possible offense...

If the Lord is Supremely Merciful, then how would such an action (eternal damnation) be justified?

According to the Vedic viewpoint, there are hellish planets, and depending on our actions & decisions now(and past) we can go to suffer there - but not for eternity... The punishment is directly proportional to the particular sins incurred. After that once again we can receive a human body (by which time we may be adverse to sinful life due to having been to the hellish planets) with which to advance in spiritual understanding and connect to the Supreme Lord.

I'd like to hear your opinions on this,

Thanks!
Atmarama
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I do not believe that G-d (Allah) will cast off any individual now or ever that truly desires to be with him. With the same understanding I do not believe that G-d (Allah) will force anyone to live in eternity with him that does not like him or desire to be around him.

In general (but it may not always be true) it does appear for the most part that those that do not “believe” in G-d (Allah) seem to desire much at all to ever have anything to do with him and would prefer to exist without him.

My question is – why does this bother you? Why do you expect things to change in a manner no one seems to favor?

Zadok
 
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