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Featured How much study is needed to realize the wisdom in scriptures?

Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by Amanaki, Jun 2, 2019.

  1. Amanaki

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    To really understand and realize the truth in spiritual/religious scriptures one must study every day. If the study is scattered and not consistent, then there will not rise wisdom from within. If one does not constantly contemplate the teaching and see the truth of it in daily life, one has not yet gained inner wisdom.
     
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  2. Rival

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    Yes, a lifetime. Several lifetimes.
     
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    One second to travel one inch. Moving from the pre frontal cortex to the air seems to be a very difficult thing for us "smart"folk. At that level trees are smarter than us. Breathing seems to be greatly under appreciated. True wisdom is self discovery of ones own stupidity. After that others stupidity is comical. Thus the laughing Buddha. When the landscape laughs with you and at you, you have arrived.
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  4. Amanaki

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    Meditating on the breath is a very known technique to silent the mind and with the silence of the mind, we can obtain the wisdom that is within the different teaching. And our consciousness will remain much more clear even when we do not sit to meditate :)
     
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    Scriptures are useful in terms of a collective wisdom used as a template to go by , as well as the shared observations and experiences of others.

    I would however prefer finding truth through my actual experiences in living life day to day rather than go by various words written in a book.

    I find day-to-day living far more effective in discovering wisdom for this life. Sort of like reading a book about driving a car compared to actually driving one.
     
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  6. Amanaki

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    Yes, when one knows and understands the teaching one will be able to use it in daily life. To see the dhamma in daily life one must know what to look for, and then study the dhamma or listen to true teaching will give the wisdom needed to find enlightenment
     
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    The "truth of daily life" is an ever-changing feast, because knowing isn't being, and being means swimming with change.

    Taoism isn't about learning the truth, it's about learning to swim with the flow of change: which is the 'being' of truth.
     
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  8. David T

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    Yes. Buddhist monks are very cautious in regards to other cultures metaphysics. Thich Nhat Hanh who introduced to Western culture mindfulness is a prime example. Really good metaphysics tends towards freeing us from ourselves so it's really really old and it repeats the same mantra generation after generation in new clothes is all. In a sense it's incredibly sound healthy psychology.
    The same thing is going on in the christian text. And like big dimwits we are we tend to over intellectualize as that manifests into social groups such as church to the point of being absurd over multiple generations.
    Carl Rogers created a quote that I really like. It's one that's not well understood. In sound metaphysics experience is primary.


    Experience is, for me, the highest authority. The touchstone of validity is my own experience. No other person's ideas, and none of my own ideas, are as authoritative as my experience. It is to experience that I must return again and again, to discover a closer approximation to truth as it is in the process of becoming in me. Neither the Bible nor the prophets -- neither Freud nor research -- neither the revelations of God nor man -- can take precedence over my own direct experience. My experience is not authoritative because it is infallible. It is the basis of authority because it can always be checked in new primary ways. In this way its frequent error or fallibility is always open to correction.
    Carl Rogers.
     
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    I felt like when someone explained Buddhism to me it was a lot easier if it was the right person using the right words. Also some people are simply more prepared or are ready to learn when others are not or are not interested. I don't agree with putting obstacles into someone's path just to make sure they don't learn too quickly. If its hard to understand then that will moderate the speed of learning on its own. I do agree with introducing obstacles to prevent misunderstandings, however. If rapid learning will cause misunderstandings then I agree with placing obstacles into the path of learning. If the person absolutely must climb a mountain to see the treetops then, yes; otherwise let them walk the valley.
     
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    To me, getting the wisdom from the Bible is a game of subtraction. I don't believe it all, but I try to make sense of it.
     
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  11. Amanaki

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    And practice it every day too i would think :)
     
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    RedDragon94 Feeling Fine I guess

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    Most days. *nods*
     
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    And you know this to be true because ________________________________________________________________ .

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  14. Amanaki

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    Both because it is a teaching of the Buddha, but also from my own cultivation and practice of the teachings that Buddha gave.
     
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    How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
     
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    27. But only on the second Tuesday of the month.
     
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    Take a chair away when the song ends on Wednesday and there will be 26.
     
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  18. Vinayaka

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    What about the religions that aren't scripture based? What kind of study must one do to understand those scriptures?
     
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    Which religions are not scripture based? I can possibly think of a few.
     
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    Paganism, tribal religions, oral traditions, many variations of Hinduism, as we're so vast. I'm sure there are more.
     
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