How much is too much?

[M O N S T E R]

For the Christians among us, I ask: how long of a leash are you willing to give the Bible for its misstatements, contradictions, and inconsistencies? How many errors do you need to be confronted with before you realize that the "Good Book" is human, rather than divine, in origin? Indeed, the Bible can be explained more satisfactorily through natural, rather than supernatural, means.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm going to go ahead and toss this link out here: Skeptic's Annotated Bible / Quran / Book of Mormon

 

[tomspug]

Interesting how someone who has actually READ the Bible looks at the same passages and can see how they are not misstatements, contradictions, or inconsistencies... Imagine that.

And for the record: Duh, the Bible was written by humans. I'm sorry if you can't stand the idea of people thinking that there is such a thing as 'inspiration'.

 

[Father Heathen]

So night and day having came before the sun makes sense to you?

Here is another question, then; there are many religions with many books that claim to be "The Word of God". Of course they can't all be divinely inspired, so how do we differentiate the frauds from the real deal? And yes, I've read the Bible. You can read it thoroughly a hundred times and the wackiness still doesn't make sense, unless you deliberately try to fit square pegs in round holes.

 

[sandandfoam]

Here is another question, then; there are many religions with many books that claim to be "The Word of God". Of course they can't all be divinely inspired, so how do we differentiate the frauds from the real deal?

I look at meaning as being extracted from books so then it depends on the person extracting it and how they construct what they read.
If someone conceives God as everything why couldn't God be revealed in infinite books ? I see no reason why every book couldn't be divinely inspired.

 

[logician]

I look at meaning as being extracted from books so then it depends on the person extracting it and how they construct what they read.
If someone conceives God as everything why couldn't God be revealed in infinite books ? I see no reason why every book couldn't be divinely inspired.

What if the books contradict each other. I won't go into the many contradictions of the Xian bible itself.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well, what if Holy Book 'A' makes a claim that contradicts another claim made in Holy Book 'B'?

Also, if I wrote my very own book and claimed that it's divinely inspired, would it be?

 

[sandandfoam]

What if the books contradict each other. I won't go into the many contradictions of the Xian bible itself.

2 options
1. Don't take them literally
2. Infinity is bound to contain apparent contradictions from the point of view of a finite mind.

 

[Smoke]

Interesting how someone who has actually READ the Bible looks at the same passages and can see how they are not misstatements, contradictions, or inconsistencies... Imagine that.

No, I don't.

 

[ChristineES]

I think there is a time when a Christian will get tired of so many derogatory threads started about them. That is when it is too much.

 

[Father Heathen]

How is it "derogatory"? Is it not a legitimate question?

 

[Magic Man]

I think there is a time when a Christian will get tired of so many derogatory threads started about them. That is when it is too much.

Christine! I didn't know you had it in you. I can't say I blame you.

 

[ChristineES]

How is it "derogatory"? Is it not a legitimate question?

It wasn't meant to be. I was being humorous. Sometimes my jokes fall right on their faces (or would if they had one. ).

 

[Magic Man]

How is it "derogatory"? Is it not a legitimate question?

Because the question basically implies that Christians are idiots for not seeing that the Bible is BS. I'm an atheist myself, but it's one thing to debate someone's beliefs, and another to tell them that they're idiots for not realizing that they're wrong.

 

[tomspug]

So night and day having came before the sun makes sense to you?

Here is another question, then; there are many religions with many books that claim to be "The Word of God". Of course they can't all be divinely inspired, so how do we differentiate the frauds from the real deal? And yes, I've read the Bible. You can read it thoroughly a hundred times and the wackiness still doesn't make sense, unless you deliberately try to fit square pegs in round holes.

Reading books about the Bible helps. I would be at a loss if I tried to figure out 2000 years worth of material without any sort of references, which is what a lot of silly people try to do.

 

[ChristineES]

I was pretending to be offended by all of MONSTER's posts. I haven't even bothered to read most of them.

Edit:Actually I did read most of them, I just don't bother to respond or even follow the threads.

 

[Magic Man]

I was pretending to be offended by all of MONSTER's posts. I haven't even bothered to read most of them.

Edit:Actually I did read most of them, I just don't bother to respond or even follow the threads.

You're probably better off that way.

 

[M O N S T E R]

Yeah. It's probably best for one to ignore anything that challenges a deeply held belief.

 

[Magic Man]

Yeah. It's probably best for one to ignore anything that challenges a deeply held belief.

Or at least for them to ignore a challenge in the form of an insult.

 

[ChristineES]

Yeah. It's probably best for one to ignore anything that challenges a deeply held belief.

You actually haven't challenged my faith at all. We Christians don't even take these questions seriously. It takes more than a disgruntled atheist to challenge my faith.
And I apologize to all the kind atheists here who don't believe in my faith but never insult my intelligence (that is most of the atheists here).