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So far, no white nationalists. There really isn't much diversity of views in this site.
*long sigh*
This is not about shaming people but is about hopefully making it easier to discuss the subject of race on both sides. I think the value here is simply figuring out how many White Nationalists are on RF, accepting that there is a presence on here (I think) and how we interact with them. Simply shaming and humiliating people, no matter how unacceptable their views are, will not change their minds especially if there are legitimate grievances feeding a problematic ideology. the attraction of extreme ideologies often comes from a refusal by mainstream politics to accept that certain problems exist combined with personal grievances that mean a person feels their voice cannot be ignored. Calling someone a fascist is not an insult to someone who believes in fascism. the discussion has to go beyond simply condemning people and trying to find ways to win them back over from extreme points of view.
Voted "I am not a White Nationalist".
I question why you are surprised. White Nationalism is unsystematic thought. It's somewhat embarrassing, really. It evolved from the attempts to keep the African population of the United States enslaved, and doesn't have much to do with legitimate nationalist or traditionalist through because it's an ex post facto justification for the United States to simultaneously deracinate white ethnics and preserve the institution of slavery. It's an ideology fit to a single society which has become mass-marketed across the caucasian nations of the globe... By such things as rock bands and pirate radio. Its intellectuals are not systematic and those they claim as their own like Enoch Powell really never are. The closest thing to a serious work of literature endorsing their cause is The Camp of the Saints, but even that is not really in congruence with white nationalist belief and of course has serious and profound problems in its dealings with the reality of other cultures which show an author more interested in political polemic than in providing a philosophical framework for a movement. It would be quite odd for any white nationalist to actually be on a forum like this which strongly cracks down on trolling and improper language.
And a lot of Arabic I would imagine. Less so after brexit I would wager.No, but I hear a lot of Russian, Polish, Latvian and Lithuanian.
my post was meant as a joke about the fact SF was saying there isn't any diversity of political opinions on here as "my message" as a commie, but obviously missed its target. Otherwise I agree with you and I'll have to look into the Camp of the Saints as reading material on the subject.
Camp of the Saints is a stupid book. Just sayin'.my post was meant as a joke about the fact SF was saying there isn't any diversity of political opinions on here as "my message" as a commie, but obviously missed its target. Otherwise I agree with you and I'll have to look into the Camp of the Saints as reading material on the subject.
And when I read **** like this I think of dilapidated, roach infested trailers with confederate flags draped over the windows and rusted car parts strewn across unkept lawns.I wouldn't be so rude to say anything, just keep my mouth shut and pray that it ends.
It sends my head spinning trying to keep up with how fast their mouths must move to speak it. It sounds hideous and since I don't speak it means nothing to me. I suppose if there is subliminal attachment it would be from fishing. Mexicans like to fish. Everywhere they fish they speak Spanish and leave piles of garbage. So when I hear Spanish I think of their piles of garbage.
No, I'm saying that there are many people who simply don't speak English and have no need to. For everyday living in East Europe, it is better to learn Russian, French, German or even sometimes Turkish.Are you really saying that having pride in my language is worse than having pride in my race or color? I could care less about race, but language is largely a nationality thing.
Check this article out.No, I'm saying that there are many people who simply don't speak English and have no need to. For everyday living in East Europe, it is better to learn Russian, French, German or even sometimes Turkish.
I'm not sure this is what I'm talking about, because it says:Check this article out.
"While English is in fact the most popular second language (44 countries primarily learn English as a second language), the following maps, created by MoveHub, a company that helps people relocate abroad, show just how diverse the world still is."
Fascinating maps reveal each country's surprising second language
The article goes more with my meaning, didn't mean to use such a broad qualifier before, I already knew how popular Mandarin is for an example of a popular language. The countries you named already know English.I'm not sure this is what I'm talking about, because it says:
For example, the US' second language is Spanish, while Canada's is French, the UK's is Polish, and Australia's is Mandarin.
In the UK Polish is the most common second language spoken because the majority of our immigrants are Polish; not because people learn it. Most kids here learn French, German. Spanish or Italian at school. Likewise Australia. Also that map shows Romania's second most common being Uralic (i.e Hungarian in this case) because Hungary is right next door and they have the Secui people, who are a Hungarian group who have lived there for years and still speak Hungarian/
People who do international business and service staff in touristy areas learn English. Elsewhere, not so much.Some don't even make an effort to learn English if they don't have to and I have cousins where there kids go into school not knowing a word of English, which isn't normal even outside the Us, everyone learns English.
It would be quite odd for any white nationalist to actually be on a forum like this which strongly cracks down on trolling and improper language.
They're here, as are the racists.
But you are correct. They have to tone down their responses in this venue.
I just read a comment from one poster left a few days ago and a few pages back basically supporting the right of white nationalists to express themselves with no evidence that he objected to their message. When you (presumably) or I acknowledge such a right, we generally indicate that we don't approve of the message, but recognize the dangers in allowing the government to criminalize such speech - perhaps with a cliché like, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it." Not that time.
The post got one "like" from a poster that consistently likes anything conservative. I'm fairly confident that they both fit into the category that we are discussing.
People who do international business and service staff in touristy areas learn English. Elsewhere, not so much.
I do not think that is what national pride is supposed to be here in USA. We should be proud of the concept America is founded on, which is that anyone can become an American and that you choose what you will be. You aren't told what to be by your heritage. You might come here as a Mexican, but you can become an American. Conversely you cannot go to Mexico and become a Mexican or go to many other places and become naturalized. Although some other countries are adopting this practice, it is an American thing and something that has to be maintained; so its not just something somebody else did. Another thing to be proud of is our maintenance of many freedoms. Though its soldiers who do the fighting and the dying in wars etc., regular citizens also do our part to keep up the concept of America. Just because we aren't dying doesn't mean we have no part in defending good ideas. The idea of wealth creation, of becoming wealthy without making other people poor is an American idea. Its something important that is peculiarly part of the American experiment. So you can have your house, your car, your life without pushing other people down. That is American.