How many White Nationalists are on RF?

[George-ananda]

I voted 'I am not a white nationalist'.

My thought is that this whole subject is currently getting too much attention in the U.S.. A few backwards thinking rednecks gathering on a platform for a rally doesn't deserve the attention it has gotten. However, it's great stuff for cable and internet news sources to get everybody so riled up that people are perceiving some greater problem and disunion then there actually is. I think in a society with hundreds of millions of people, there will always be a few that will act out.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I voted other because "anti-nationalism" is a part of my philosophy.

It's okay if you find the languages of non-English-speaking people "hideous." I mean, many of us do your homework for you and learn another language to communicate with you and others.

And some you, such as yourself and Smart Guy, use English better than many native-speakers I know. It's pretty pathetic that Americans are so reluctant to learn anything other than English (and don't even really learn it that well, either), yet pretty much everywhere else people speak their own native tongue and at least one or two other languages, if not more. This holds for Mexican immigrants who come into America and don't learn English, not because I'm in the "speak English" crowd, but because the intellectual and social laziness that goes behind clinging to be being monolingual should not be encouraged or celebrated.

 

[Erebus]

I don't see the point in taking pride in something you didn't achieve. This pretty much puts me at odds with nationalists of any stripe, along with most of those patriotic folks who don't quite qualify as nationalist.

I also endeavour to avoid bigotry by despising everybody equally.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I don't see the point in taking pride in something you didn't achieve. This pretty much puts me at odds with nationalists of any stripe, along with most of those patriotic folks who don't quite qualify as nationalist.

I do not think that is what national pride is supposed to be here in USA. We should be proud of the concept America is founded on, which is that anyone can become an American and that you choose what you will be. You aren't told what to be by your heritage. You might come here as a Mexican, but you can become an American. Conversely you cannot go to Mexico and become a Mexican or go to many other places and become naturalized. Although some other countries are adopting this practice, it is an American thing and something that has to be maintained; so its not just something somebody else did. Another thing to be proud of is our maintenance of many freedoms. Though its soldiers who do the fighting and the dying in wars etc., regular citizens also do our part to keep up the concept of America. Just because we aren't dying doesn't mean we have no part in defending good ideas. The idea of wealth creation, of becoming wealthy without making other people poor is an American idea. Its something important that is peculiarly part of the American experiment. So you can have your house, your car, your life without pushing other people down. That is American.

 

[Nakosis]

the discussion has to go beyond simply condemning people and trying to find ways to win them back over from extreme points of view.

Both White Supremacy and White Nationalism are anti-American IMO.

Being a nationalist however is just supporting the principles a nation was founded on.

 

[Nous]

I voted 'I am not a white nationalist'.

My thought is that this whole subject is currently getting too much attention in the U.S.. A few backwards thinking rednecks gathering on a platform for a rally doesn't deserve the attention it has gotten. However, it's great stuff for cable and internet news sources to get everybody so riled up that people are perceiving some greater problem and disunion then there actually is. I think in a society with hundreds of millions of people, there will always be a few that will act out.

I think the topic has gotten a lot of attention because one of the "backwards rednecks," not on a platform but in a car, mowed a bunch of people down, killing one and injuring 9.

 

[Tomyris]

I of course voted that I am a nationalist, but not a white nationalist. White nationalism ignores ethnic complexity within the Caucasian nations.... And a history of natural intermixing and cultural development. It's as reductive and deracinated as postmodern integrationist society is; eliminating the differences between Pole and Spaniard is not different than between Kenyan and Serb, and a few Kenyans settling in Britain and adopting it's culture and language are normative, not a pollution or an evil. The problem begins solely when the whole society is displaced on a cultural level. The difference between Abram Petrovich Gannibal marrying into the Russian nobility and the Mongol invasions is illustrative of how scale matters between our embrace of talented outsiders versus the threat of civilisational destruction. One is to be lauded, one resisted.

 

[Nous]

As we said in another thread, Jesus loves Americans (English speaking) much more than he loves Mexicans (Spanish speaking), that's why Jesus only spoke English, its in the Bible (written in English)!!

I think there was actually a legislator in Texas who said something like: "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

 

[idav]

I also endeavour to avoid bigotry by despising everybody equally.

I think that's a main point of equality, none being superior, I desipise/admire with equal opportunity, there plenty of better reasons other than skin color to admire a person for.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I voted 'I am not a white nationalist'.

My thought is that this whole subject is currently getting too much attention in the U.S.. A few backwards thinking rednecks gathering on a platform for a rally doesn't deserve the attention it has gotten. However, it's great stuff for cable and internet news sources to get everybody so riled up that people are perceiving some greater problem and disunion then there actually is. I think in a society with hundreds of millions of people, there will always be a few that will act out.

That's really what it is. People blow things so far out of proportion that it gets people riled up thinking it's something major when in all actuality, it is not.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I remember watching Native Americans perform at cultural events and how proud they were in sharing their culture with everyone else, also many people of African descent wearing colorful clothing talking about their Heritage and sharing items used by their ancestors, it made me think, with some envy wishing I was them, caused me to ask myself what do I as a white person, have to show for my heritage and background that I can be proud of and share?

 

[George-ananda]

I think the topic has gotten a lot of attention because one of the "backwards rednecks," not on a platform but in a car, mowed a bunch of people down, killing one and injuring 9.

One person? 33 got killed in Chicago last weekend. And there wouldn't have been this large counter demonstration without the media's overboard attention. The emotions and tension were at such a volatile level, I am actually surprised there wasn't even more killed or injured.

 

[David1967]

All the people that voted for Trump, obviously.

LOL

I'm just kidding! Please don't report me to an admin.

 

[David1967]

How about English speaking Nationalism? Nothing ruins my day quicker than people speaking Spanish.

What about Cherokee?

 

[Nous]

One person? 33 got killed in Chicago last weekend.

Presumably they were not peaceful demonstrators mowed down by neo-Nazis/KKK.

And there wouldn't have been this large counter demonstration without the media's overboard attention.

Blaming the media?

 

[Kemosloby]

What about Cherokee?

any of them left? Love the Indians, they would never leave garbage in the park. If it was up to me they would be running the country.

 

[David1967]

I think there was actually a legislator in Texas who said something like: "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

I actually heard something similar. An older Baptist fellow made the statement, "If the King James Bible was good enough for the Apostle Paul, then its good enough for me."

 

[David1967]

any of them left? Love the Indians, they would never leave garbage in the park. If it was up to me they would be running the country.

Yeah there are lots of them left , at least here in Oklahoma. I have a little Cherokee blood. But I don't speak any. Where I live there are quite a few Choctaw and Chickasaw speakers. Very close languages.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

It may be something that we associate with identity - but it has little to nothing to do with Nationality.
Modern languages are just bastardized conglomerates of previous groups. There's nothing "National" about English, Spanish, Arabic, Hindi, Sign Language, or whatever else you want to throw in there.

Localized languages are a bit different. But no one on this forum lives in that world.

Sign language has some localized elements. American sign language is different than English sign language, for example. But not so different that it wouldn't be more like a dialect thing. Mexican sign language is entirely different from Spanish sign language, though. The latter of which having more similarities with Portugese sign language.

 

[Twilight Hue]

any of them left? Love the Indians, they would never leave garbage in the park. If it was up to me they would be running the country.

Though I think that's a bit romantic, I do think they would do a better job at it then we are right now.