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Featured How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ayin, Dec 29, 2020.

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  1. Tumah

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    You cited the JPS notes on Isaiah 59:20 saying that they say that not all of Israel will be saved. This is obvious from the context of the verse: only the repentant will be saved. I do not disagree with this.

    This quote is from after the war ended. After the war is over, whoever remains has been saved. And all the people that are left represent the new entirety of the nation. The trick is becoming one of the remainder.

    It's called tunnel vision.
     
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    Matthew 25:13 in the KJV removes "wherin the Son of man cometh". Matthew 27:54 changes "the son of God" to "a son of God". A Christian is a son of God, they aren't the son of God.
     
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    *sigh* Guess I'll skim the thread. Its too long. Does anybody remember what they were talking about on page 10? I doubt it.
     
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    The Hebrew of Jared is incorrect. It should be ירד - Yared, not גארד - Gared.
    And I didn't understand how whoever made this reached the conclusion that Enosh means "sickly, fallen man".
     
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    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    Good luck...
     
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    Trust me when I say. You would be better off just ignoring this thread.
     
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    You are right. It is a spelling mistake.
    Enosh is from the root anash, which means "weak, sick, frail", properties of a mortal(enosh) man, who has fallen.
     
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    Here's another neat passage of scripture, but only for those with eyes to see!

    2 Samuel 19:10-15. [JPS 1985 Edition]
    'All the people throughout the tribes of Israel were arguing: Some said, "The king saved us from the hands of our enemies, and he delivered us from the hands of the Philistines; and just now he had to flee the country because of Absalom [Father of peace]. But Absalom [Father of peace], whom we anointed over us, has died in battle; why then do you sit idle instead of escorting the king back?" The talk of all Israel reached the king in his quarters. So king David sent this message to the priests Zadok [Righteous] and Abiathar [Father of superfluity]: "Speak to the elders of Judah and say, 'Why should you be the last to escort the king back? And to Amasa [Burden bearer] say this, 'You are my own flesh and blood. May God do thus and more to me if you do not become my army commander permanently in place of Joab [Jah is Father]!' So [Amasa][Burden bearer] swayed the hearts of all the Judges as one man; and they sent a message to the king: "Come back with all your followers."

    There's hope, yet!
     
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    Example of this in a sentence from the Bible or Hebraic text from the Biblical era? Otherwise it would be like defining a word with the same word...
     
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    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    And what does Hand Behold Nail Behold mean? I would have thought god would have been more coherent in his acronyms.
     
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    Names and words have contexts. My username is from one meaning of my real name, but I'm not actually anyone's competitor or enemy or whatever. My name exists in a certain context.

    I can make a weird sentence out of some of the real names of RF friends and me. I can think of one now. It's cool, but it's also meaningless.
     
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    I don't see how that answers my request.
    Is there a Biblical passage or other ancient Hebraic text that includes the wrote of the word in a manner that makes it clear that the meaning is what you say it is? Or in other words, where does Strong's get its definition from?
     
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    It means "Behold the nailed Hand!"

    Yehoshua(Jesus) = YHWH is salvation = Behold the nailed hand is salvation!

    The Bible is amazing.
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    So why is it so grammatically incoherent? I thought god was perfect.
    @rosends, teach god some English...
     
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    JPS notes on Isaiah 59:20. 'Those in Jacob who turn back from sin: It is the penitent Israelites, not the whole nation, who will enjoy the salvation long predicted and thus far delayed.'

    The penitent are Israelites, the whole nation is Jacob. So, the difference between the two is based on who 'turn back from sin'.

    Then I want to know from what sin the Israelite must repent.

    If the trick is to be one of the remainder after the war, what do you think enables a person to remain and not be a casualty?
     
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