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Featured How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ayin, Dec 29, 2020.

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  1. Skywalker

    Skywalker Well-Known Member

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    Interpretations of the Tanakh reject the Trinity, not the Tanakh itself. Some interpretations of the Tanakh teach reincarnation or there is no hell. Rabbis, like pastors and priests, are human beings who can interpert the Bible wrongly. “Sheol” Does Not Merely Refer To The “Grave”

     
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    Your reference does not address the issue.

    I do not know of any Jewish scholar that will support the notion that the Tanakh remotely can be interpreted to support the Trinity.
     
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    The Old Testament saints? like Job and David may be revered by anyone who chooses regardless of beliefs, and has nothing to with the issues at hand.
     
  4. Skywalker

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    People misinterpret the Bible. Catholicism calls the priests father and Mormonism teach blasphemous things. Matthew 23:9

    And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

    Mormonism: God had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus

     
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    The Bible uses the term saints to refer to all believers. What does the Bible say about Christian saints? What are saints?

     
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    Does not address the issue of my posts and the thread. Your responses are all over the place.
     
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    Just because Jewish scholars don't believe that the Tanakh mentions the Trinity doesnt mean that that is the correct interpretation of the scriptures. People misunderstand what the Bible teaches. I mentioned Catholicism and Mormonism as examples
     
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    I didn't use the term saints to imply that they should be revered.
     
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    Fair point ...
     
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    I never asserted that the interpretation of Jewish scholars necessarily have the correct interpretation, but it is their scripture, their history in their language. The problem is that the Jewish and Christin perspective is that there interpretation is the only 'true' interpretation. Christian interpretation are in different Western languages, and culture and remains highly problematic from the Jewish perspective. In fact in my view the Bible is an edited, redacted and compiled scripture since ~700-600 BCE without documented authorship for the most part, and without provenance nor original documents. It is obvious from the academic perspective that the Pentateuch does not have original authors remotely dated to the time the scripture was claimed to be written, and used earlier Sumerian, Babylonian, Phoenician, Canaanite, and Ugarit sources. The Hebrew written language did not exist before ~700 BCE. Before this the Hebrews were a minor Canaanite pastoral tribe in the hills of Judah. These are the known facts, and later day interpretations are highly questionable

    I interpret all ancient scriptures of the world in the historical context of the times and culture they were written without any particular agenda. It reflects what they believed at the time it was written. I tend to view the different religions of the world in universal perspective of the evolving beliefs and cultures of humanity regardless of whether they are specifically 'true' or not.
     
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    Then how did you use term? It is a Christian, and not Jewish perspective.
     
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    The facts of the different heritage and contrasting beliefs makes them mutually exclusive.
     
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    More material from a website that is, inter alia, antisemitic. I would not have expected anything less from you. I would like to think that you are only displaying the ignorance and arrogance typical of many in their early 20s, but the more you continue to cite to websites that deal in hate in all varieties...
     
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    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Messianics, both Jews and Gentiles, may say they are not Christian, but that's what they are. They believe that Jesus died for their sins, that he rose, and will come again. That's what a Christian is.
     
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