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Featured How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ayin, Dec 29, 2020.

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  1. ayin

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    How is this possible?
     
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    He didn't fulfil the criteria to be the Messiah.
     
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  3. ayin

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    Which?
     
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    Salvation comes from merit not grace.
     
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    1. He was not a King over Israel (by which is meant a real king, not a 'spiritual king').
    2. He did not gather the lost tribes / exiles back to Eretz Israel.
    3. He did not bring peace to Israel / vanquish Israel's enemies.
    4. He was not from the lineage of King David / his lineage is suspect.
    5. He did not have children and a long life.
    6. He did not usher in a Messianic Era wherein knowledge of the True G-d is spread across the earth and folks from all nations will come to worship at Jerusalem, realising the wrongness of their old religions.
     
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    Insinuating that Jews are incomprehensibly stupid is both rude and thoughtless.

    Don't feed it.
     
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  7. ayin

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    What sign did God make on the foreheads of the people in Ezekiel who were saved from judgment? What sign did God make on the forehead of Cain so that he would be saved? Praised be YHWH.
     
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    Speaking of laws, @Rival, they seem to crop up all over the place. In fact, it was only yesterday that I read:

    8. Preaching/Proselytizing
    Creating (or linking to) content intended to convert/recruit others to your religion, spirituality, sect/denomination, or lack thereof is not permitted. Similarly, attempting to convert others away from their religion, spiritual convictions, or sect/denomination will also be considered a form of preaching. Stating opinions as a definitive matter of fact (i.e., without "I believe/feel/think" language, and/or without references) may be moderated as preaching.​

    I was thinking Moses but, on second thought, it could be Leviticus. I'll see if I can dig up the source ...

    L'shalom.
     
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    Hi and welcome to this website. You don't state your religion; are you Mormon or Muslim?
     
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  10. ayin

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    Thank you.
    I am a Jew.
     
  11. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    Jew you may be, but I would make the distinction that you are not Jewish.
     
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    Oh, good! In that case, you know the answer to your initial post. That's good to hear.
     
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    one big thing the jew's wanted was the removal of Rome . they assumed he would do that .when he did not Jesus was rejected
     
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    Sorry, but fortunately there is no such thing as a Preaching DIR.
     
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    Hey -- quick question (though I don't know where you live): do you prefer chocolate or vanilla, specifically when talking about ice cream? Please don't say "strawberry." Thanks.
     
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    A Christian might say:

    1. A spiritual king could be a real king.
    2. He could be doing that now.
    3. He did that spiritually.
    4. Suspect?
    5. Royal blood?
    6. Maybe in the second coming?
     
  17. Rival

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    I'd like to answer you but I'm wary of this becoming a debate, when it's in Religions Q&A.
     
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    So, is there anybody that does not view this as proselytizing? Just curious.
     
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    I'm sorry... I was not trying to proselytize; I was just trying to tell what I thought a Christian would say.
     
  20. Rival

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    I wasn't suggesting you were trying to do that :)
     
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