Homosexuals in the Catholic Church

[chlotilde]

Sex is a “in my mind” and a “in my body” event.
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I'm sitting here thinking this statement might need a little more explanation...not that anyone asked,lol.
But people like to say it is their body that was made to be attracted to either male or female, an "in my body " event. But this thinking would fail to explain a behavior such as masturbation (were we made sexually attracted to ourselves?) or...the fact my dog likes to hump my leg, the cat, the pillow...you name it! Would someone who watches porn, think, oh, I must be sexually attracted to pictures? Hence the term "in my mind".

 

[LuisDantas]

Because one usage is as a noun, and the other usage is as a verb.

Well, sure.

So, @ZooGirl02 , are you saying that homosexuality is not understood by the Church to be a medical condition, but nevertheless it is in some sense (again, according to the Church) wrong to accept it? Or perhaps that it is perceived as wrong to have homosexual relations, regardless of how natural they are to the Catholic person? Or, in a more extreme interpretation, that Catholic homosexuals should nevertheless attempt to lead a heterosexual life no matter how ill it suits their own natures?

 

[chlotilde]

Well, sure.

Sorry, I was just trying to clarify in my mind what was being asked. Thanks for the further clarification. (beyond that, I can't answer as it is not something I know about in detail)

 

[LuisDantas]

No need whatsoever for apologies. You truly helped me understand, or at least formulate a possible understanding. I did not intend to be sarcastic and I am sorry if it came out that way.

 

[ZooGirl02]

What I am trying to say is that the Church does not view homosexuality as a medical condition. However, nevertheless being attracted to the same sex is not as God intended for things to be. That happened as a result of the curse that fell upon the world because of Original Sin. Does that explain things?

 

[LuisDantas]

It does clarify your stance. Thanks.

 

[Glaurung]

Sorry, ZooGirl, but I fear it is not clear to me either.

I'll clarify. This is a problem of words being used in contexts that people here don't understand.

Distorted in this context refers to the teleological understanding of sex as informed by natural law. The Catholic Church holds that sex has a twofold function, allowing the procreation of our species, and serving a unitive function between two spouses within the institution of marriage. Deliberate frustration of either is a distortion of teleological design and thus a distortion of natural law. Homosexual acts fail in both the possibility of procreation, and the requirement that sex to be constrained within marriage, which can only validly occur between a man and a woman.

This of course, also applies to artificial contraception, fornication, adultery, masturbation and pornography. As they are all distorted uses of the sexual faculty.

And before anyone goes there, marriage refers to the sacrament of the Church, not the secular legal construct.

 

[ZooGirl02]

It does clarify your stance. Thanks.

You're welcome.

I'll clarify. This is a problem of words being used in contexts that people here don't understand.

Distorted in this context refers to the teleological understanding of sex as informed by natural law. The Catholic Church holds that sex has a twofold function, allowing the procreation of our species, and serving a unitive function between two spouses within the institution of marriage. Deliberate frustration of either is a distortion of teleological design and thus a distortion of natural law. Homosexual acts fail in both the possibility of procreation, and the requirement that sex to be constrained within marriage, which can only validly occur between a man and a woman.

This of course, also applies to artificial contraception, fornication, adultery, masturbation and pornography. As they are all distorted uses of the sexual faculty.

And before anyone goes there, marriage refers to the sacrament of the Church, not the secular legal construct.

I think your post better explains why homosexual acts are disordered.

 

[TheInfiniteLight]

So much is said about what the Catholic Church doesn't do and does do with regard to gender and sexuality. There is still much discussion to be had.....but one thing is certain, homosexuals do exist within the walls of the Church that are loyal to the Church. That includes many priest and nuns as well. I know a close gay friend of mine (who is not Catholic) who finds Catholic homosexuals that are loyal to the Church's teachings as impostors and are only avoiding the inevitable reality.

Here are some of those Catholics who are gay, but simply love their Catholics faith more (agree or disagree, it's a great watch):

Blackstone Films | The Third Way

A homosexuals sins are neither better nor worst than a heterosexuals sins. We are all sinners before the Lord's mercy. If someone calls someone an impostor within the Church then it is they who do not realize that they, themselves, are sinners too. Anyone who enters the temple must obey by the temples laws and rules. It's funny, Only Jesus was able to do this. The Lord calls sinners to himself, in repentance of their sins. Does that mean we stop sinning as we repent? Absolutely not. There is no one man greater than another on this earth. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of the Lord.