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Featured Finally! More Young Americans Accept Evolution than Believe in Creationism...

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Sunstone, Nov 23, 2015.

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  1. Sunstone

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    For the first time, more young Americans accept evolution than believe in creationism. Older people, however, still believe in some form of creationism by a wide margin.

    Please discuss. Is evolution denial going the way of the dinosaurs? Why or why not?
     
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    Of course. It was to be expected.

    "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping things.

    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    (Romans 1:21-25)

    Evolution is true. God is true. God created evolution.
     
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    Your biblical quote seems to have little or no relevance that I can make out to evolution.
     
  4. Terese

    Terese ॐ ātmā na deho'smi viṣṇu-śeṣo-parigrahaḥ
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    Evolution is obviously real. those that deny this obviously have never been at a museum. The fact that it's declining is very good. I should actually answer your question. I sure hope so!
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    Should I expect you to see the relevance?
     
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    I'm still puzzled how some human animals actually think there is an iota of credibility in creationism.
     
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    Only if your biblical reference is logically relevant. Otherwise, perhaps not.
     
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    What's important about evolution and creationalism, anyway? I know one is a mystery the other is, well, interesting; but...whats up with why its so popular topic in general?
     
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    I believe it was. Perhaps you need to read it a few times.
     
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    It's quite a foreign notion to us, but if one is brought up in a totally immersive environment
    wherein the Bible is the singular view of the universe, then that's normal for them. Thank
    your lucky stars that this didn't happen to you.
     
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    I'm actually surprised to hear that belief in creationism is that high still. Polls like that though confuse me a little as I'm not sure how the various types of intelligent design people are tabulated. One can believe in creationism and evolution actually.
     
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    Perhaps. Or perhaps the passages you've quoted aren't making as much sense of evolution as you think they do. I prefer the latter interpretation because I have read and re-read the passages you've quoted and found that to be the case -- they are irrelevant here.
     
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    The more our nation turns away from God, the more decadent it becomes. And the more decadent our society becomes the more who turn away from God. I really don't care if you think the quote I used is appropriate or not. I do. And I have re-read what I said, and I still think it was relevant.

    You see, it is easy to accept evolution and Creation. But if you do not believe in God you cannot accept creation even though they are completely compatible. And only a non-believer wouldn't see that.
     
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    We're just in disagreement then. No biggie. Happens all the time.
     
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    I have edited my previous post that you have just responded to here. Maybe it will make more sense to you..Hope so..
     
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    Maybe because it's one of those never ending debates?
    Ehh I accept evolution. Don't see why I shouldn't. Though the various creation stories are quite imaginative.
     
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    My argument vs. evolution is best fit proofs stink. I never liked them when science uses them, and I like them even less when religious people use them to graft the universe into their cosmology. I respectfully decline to be a part of either side of this conceptual madness which borders on lunacy regardless of your side of the aisle. I happily await more proof... I don't consider shared genes or other building block material to be enough to assume there is derivation from species. it's possible species are created independently of similar materials for example. Both a table and chair may be made of metal or wood, but they are not related -- a table didn't grow from a chair just for sharing physical properties. In essence, this is what science is asking people to believe -- I think not enough work has been done.

    There are other things like... the lack of "inbetweener" species in fossil records, and modern day examples of mutation into new species that leave great holes in the best fit logic used to define evolution. Sounds great on paper and it makes sense... Taxonomic categorizations are nearly completely arbitrary as a result. Associations are drawn where nothing is proven to exist, but seems to make sense.

    I'm happy with the "I'm not sure" position for now. There are gaping holes in modern science in regard to this information... The holes are just as wide as those used by the creationists to defend their positions...
     
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    What lack? Our own species alone has seven documented members of the homo genus. Of course the fossil record is incomplete, and it never will be complete, but if you think there is this "lack of inbetweeners" then perhaps you should reexamine the evidence of evolution that we do have on hand.
     
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    Who created God?
     
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