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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by nPeace, Dec 31, 2020.

  1. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    So if I don't believe a book full of the most
    obvious falsehoods its coz am superficial?

    This is a serious belief on your part?

    Here on RF we find nobody more dedicated to
    their closed minds than the fundamentalists
     
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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    The Bible isn't exactly loaded with claims evidenced
    in reality. So many believers I know cite passages
    from the book as proof that the book has evidence
    & truth.
    While this may be a comfort to those already believing,
    it fails utterly to sway non-believers who rely upon
    reason & evidence.
     
  3. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    It is based on, or founded on evidence, which does not contradict what is proven.
    It is sound, even where there is no proof, of which there are many things that cannot be proven.
    I cannot prove that I will be breathing tomorrow, but I do have faith in the evidence that will be the case.
     
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  4. Audie

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    Fulfilled exactly is just b.s.
     
  5. nPeace

    nPeace Well-Known Member

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    "The most obvious falsehoods" is a subjective opinion, and you are entitled to that. I feel the same way about your beliefs.
    I think your beliefs are of fundamentalists too.
    So where did that get us?
     
  6. Audie

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    Sure is easy to prove there was no flood.
     
  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I haven't yet seen the evidence for claims I hear of....
    - Animals on the ark
    - Talking snakes
    - 6k or 10k year old Earth
     
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  8. Audie

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    There is nothing subjective about the fact that there was no flood.
    There is no way your " faith " is on equal standing with things like facts.
     
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  9. Audie

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    Or the prophecy about Tyre, which even unto today doth prosper exceedingly
     
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  10. Revoltingest

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    Your Bible learn'n clearly exceeds mine.
    I'm thinking of those round rubber thingies on Mr Van.
    But surely you have something else in mind.
     
  11. Audie

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    Ha! PROOF that you is a canuk.
     
  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Well, I do live near Ameristan's hat.
    Some of their 'qualities' have rubbed off'n me.
     
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    That isn't true Revoltingest.
    There are many things in the Bible that "evidenced in reality". Many things.

    That's not true either.
    Many non-believers have become believers, and continue to be convinced that the Bible is true, and that includes Atheists, agnostics, scientists, communists, heartless coldblooded murderers, etc.
    Surely you are not going to claim that such persons don't rely on reason & evidence... are you?
     
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    Go ahead. Prove it.
     
  15. Audie

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    Egypt, dead sea, goats, and many such
    are real as can be evidenced in reality.
    So what.

    You rather disingenuously just speak in
    general terms, so that you don't have to
    plain lie to speak of things evidenced in reality.

    The important stuff is as evidence free as Batboy, Nessie and Mermaids.

    People who believe in ANY of the supernatural
    things have zero evidence and must rely on
    totally unreasonable faith to maintain the
    illusion.
     
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    First tell us what the flood was.
    World wide? Metaphorical?
     
  17. Revoltingest

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    I eagerly await your list.
    But I also wonder about the claims shown false, eg,
    young Earth, talking snakes, making women out of ribs.
    Your argument hasn't worked on this heathen.
    While I don't know everyone, I've never met IRL an atheist
    who converted to a religion. But the believers (especially
    ex-Catholics & ex-Jews) who became atheists...they abound.
     
  18. Audie

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    The "atheists" always turn out to be
    religionists who tried to escape but were sucked back in.
     
  19. Revoltingest

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    I wonder if the "hate God" idea arose, ie, from a believer
    who suffered in life, leading to rejecting their faith.
    A lifelong atheist would have no reason to had their God.
    I actually have more feelings of hatred toward Voldemort.
    He seems more real.
     
  20. Audie

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    Its a tell.
     
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    I see. Then logically, you did not understand the implications of your own initial remark to me.

    Fascinating. But not surprising.
     
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