Hello. Just thought I'd jump in here and share my thoughts on your thread. First of all, it takes faith to believe in the Bible. You either have it or you choose not too. According to God's Word, He tells us that all scripture was recorded by men who were inspired by God Himself. The Word of God is alive. In it you'll find the keys to everlasting life, that is, if you indeed want eternal life. Again, according to scripture, you're going to spend eternity in either Heaven or hell, it's a choice. God doesn't force anyone to receive salvation, it is a gift. You know, as much time and energy as you have put into trying to find fault in God's Word, you could be trying to find out wether or not God is real. The Bible is what it is and obviously you've been reading It and it sounds like you're at a standstill with It at the moment. So why not go straight to the Source, and have a chat with God Himself, and ask Him to show you if His Word is in fact true or not. Trust me, He'll answer you............... Don't be afraid too, because He is a God of love and wants very much for you to understand..............
Ron68 said:Creation of the World
(a) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapter 1. Verse I and 2:- In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of GOD was hovering over the waters.
At the initial stage of the formation of the universe only a gaseous mass like a smoke existed. To mention the existence of water at this stage is simply human imagination of Bible writers. Science considers it to be an error. Todays Bible is conceived in the minds of men. Nothing is so firmly believed except that which is known the least.
(b) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapt. 1. Verse 3 to 5:- And GOD said, let there be light, and there was light. GOD saw that the light was good, and HE separated the light from the darkness. GOD called the light Day, and the darkness he called night. And there was evening, and there was morningthe First Day.
Here science has a problem. This is the First day when the light has come. But where has it come from? If the source of light was Sun, then according to the Bible it appears much later on i.e. on the Fourth day as we will see later. Stars also appear on the Fourth day. So how can there be light three days in advance of Sun or stars? These are imaginary descriptions of events. There is a lot of human manipulation.
(c) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapter 1. Verse.6 to 8:- And GOD said, Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water. So GOD made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. GOD called the expanse sky. And there was evening, and there was morningthe Second Day.
Here again there is an imagination of human mind. We have already seen earlier that the Sun and the stars had not appeared till then. So in the absence of Sun how can there be evening and morning? And how could there be water above in the sky?
Bible writers did not know that one day science would be so much developed that it would find faults with the Bible.
(d) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapter 1 Verse 9 to 13:- And GOD said, Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear. And it was so. GOD called the dry ground land, and the gathered waters
HE called seas. And GOD saw that it was good.
Then GOD said, Let the land produce vegetation: Seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that hear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds. And it was so.
The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And GOD saw it was good. And there was evening, and there was morningthe Third Day.
Here again the science has a problem. How come vegetation and trees with fruit and seed can flourish in the absence of Sunlight? (According to Genesis the Sun would appear much later i.e. on the Fourth Day) Surely human authors have taken a lot of liberty with the Bible text.
(e) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapter I. Verse 14 to 19:- And GOD said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, and let there be
lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.
And it was so. GOD made two great lights the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night.
He also made the stars.
GOD set them in the expanse of the sky to give light to the earth, to govern the day and the night and to separate light from darkness.
And GOD saw that it was good.
And there was evening, and there was morningthe Fourth Day.
Here again there is a problem. In earlier verses I 3 it has been said that the earth was already created on the First Day and there was vegetation and trees with fruits and seed. Now it is the Fourth Day and Bible now tells us that on the Fourth Day the Sun and the moon have appeared. But we know from science that the earth and the moon emanated from their original starthe Sun. So here again the Bible statement is other way. round. The Sun should have been mentioned first, light and darkness, vegetation, plants and trees and seeds should have followed thereafter. Order is Gods First Law. Todays Bible was written in the understanding of man and it was written in the language of man.
(f) Bible. Book of Genesis. Chapter 1. Verse 20 to 23:- And GOD said. Let the water teem with living creatures. and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky. So GOD created the great creatures of sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind.
And GOD saw that it was good. GOD blessed them and said, Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on earth.
And there was evening and there was morning on the Fifth Day.
Here again Science has a problem with Bible. Bible says that the winged birds came on the Fifth Day and that too along with the fish. But Bible also says that it was on the Sixth Day that the Animals came on the earth. Coming of the birds before the coming of animals is not acceptable to science. According to science the fish came first, then animals came, and then came the birdsin that sequence. Bible is full of defects. And lately the Vatican has begun to accept the defects.
(g) Bible Book of Genesis. Chapter 1. Verses 24 to 31:- And God said, Let the land produce living creatures according .to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind.
And it was so.
GOD made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds.
And GOD saw that it was good.
Then GOD said, Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.
So GOD created man in his own image, in the image of GOD he created him; male and female HE created them.
GOD blessed them and said to them, Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.
Then GOD said, I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food~ And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground everything that has the breath of life in itI give every green plant for food.
And it was so.
GOD saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morningthe Sixth Day.
Here the error as pointed out by science is that the Bible has placed the birds on the Fifth Day of creation while the animals are made to appear later on the Sixth Day.
Here again the sequence of events, according to science is other way round. Appearance of Animals should come before the appearance of birds. Is Bible really the word of GOD?
There is plenty of human manipulation.
(h) Bible. Book of Genesis Chapter 2 Verse 1 to 3:- Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
By the Seventh Day GOD had finished the work he had been doing; so on the Seventh Day he rested from all his work.
And GOD blessed the Seventh Day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
Here comes the human manipulation. Allude an act to GOD so that it becomes justifiable for folks to follow it. Men willingly believe in what they themselves wish for. Much later Mark at 2:27 said, Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. The truth is that Sabbath is for man not for God.
If GOD did it, why should not they also do it. A typical Jewish line of thinking. It is also worth bringing to the notice of our readers that these three verses (Chapter 2 Verse 1-3) did not exist in the earlier YAHVIST text of Bible. It is a later addition in Bible by Jews. Why?
We know that all the days that are mentioned in Bible in the creation of the universe are very long periods of time spread over million and millions of years. But here abruptly we come to a day, which is only twenty-four hours long. It is just to justify the SABBATH the Day of rest of the Jews.
Here again there is an addition in the Bible. This later day addition in the Bible is therefore deliberate, imaginative and purely whimsical just to justify the Day of Sabbath.