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Featured Drinking Poison

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Cherub786, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Rival

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    It's in the most trusted (sahih) ahadith. Muslims trust it. However the question of whether it actually happened according to non-Muslim academia is much more unlikely.
     
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    Why would I think that?
    I do have faith yes, it seems like you do not have it in spiritual life. But understand this, if you have never practiced a spiritual teaching, you can never understand the hidden wisdom. That is he difference in a practicing person and one who do not practice spiritual teaching.
     
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  4. Rival

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    Ah yes, I know David Wood well :D
     
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    I do not believe a word of this story.
     
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    Proof that "God" exist. With "God" being something like an energy-source we can tap into

    I don't care about Religion...I only care about "personal connection" with "God" (Energy-source, Great-Unknown,...)
     
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    If your understanding of God is a Great-Unknown Energy-source, then some poison experiment is honestly completely irrelevant to it. We know energy sources exist apart from any poison experiment, and we are aware of things we don't know or understand without such an experiment. It doesn't add or subtract anything to the idea at all, IMHO. :shrug: Nor does it really explain how the experiment results occur in any helpful way.
     
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    Why would you think what?
    That I own the Brooklyn Bridge? Because you believe faith can save from poison. :)
     
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    Only personal experience counts in Spirituality. Have you ever tried it yourself?
    IF not THEN your words are just your opinion, but say nothing about the Truth.
    IF you have tried, well I guess you need to try harder, if you did not find the Truth yet.
     
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    What Arab-Israel war video were you watching?
     
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    Have I ever tried what? Drinking poison? No. Spirituality? Yes.

    Ah, heads you win, tails I lose, I see.
     
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    That has nothing to do with what you own or not. It has to do with the faith I hold in how powerful the teaching I follow is. When doubt is gone the mind and body can handle a lot more then what you think or has been told by science.
     
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    Cold? Heat? Hunger? Sure.
    Deadly poison though? Nope.
     
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    You are welcome to believe or disbelieve what you want :)
    I believe in the power of our mind and our spiritual journey.
     
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    Neo, is that you?
     
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    You really shouldn't believe your faith can overcome deadly poison, because it can't.
    This is a really dangerous belief to have.
     
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    In your view it maybe is.

    But don't worry I have no plan of taking poison :)
     
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    Beliefs don't exist in a vacuum though.
    If you believe your faith can overcome deadly poison, you probably believe in a lot of other dangerous things.
     
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    No I do not believe it is safe to do dangerous things, I am not someone who put my life on risk for fun. My belief is not dangerous at all, all I say is that I believe that when a person have cultivated his or her mind to a higher level, they have full control over mind and body. A non cultivator can of course not drink poison without dying.
     
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    It might be interesting to read the verses of Mark chapter 16 verses 9 to 20, however they are Not original Scripture.
    Mark ends at Mark 16:8
    Note the style of writing changes after verse 8.
    There are No corresponding reference verses after verse 8 as there is up to verse 8.
    Remember: Jesus did Not ascend to Heaven the day he was resurrected as Mark 16:19 says.
    Jerome and Eusebius agreed Mark 16 ends as verse 8.
    So, what is written after verse 8 are added spurious verses and Not original gospel.
     
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