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Featured Does God have a proper name? What for?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by firedragon, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. firedragon

    firedragon Veteran Member

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    Thats not a literal meaning, but a spiritual or theological intent you are speaking of. Namasthe.

    Never mind that. I dont think I could address the Hindu theologies in this context really.
     
  2. shunyadragon

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    That is according to the facts and evidence of the different religions, and not from the perspective any one other religion.
     
  3. Revoltingest

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    Notice that "G" you capitalized?
    This indicates a proper name.
    The lower case version, "god", could be any deity.
     
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  5. firedragon

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    Different religions?
     
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    Okay. Change it to the simple g if that is an issue. Thanks.
     
  7. Revoltingest

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    Thanx for clarifying.
     
  8. rational experiences

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    Humans all own the same life aware consciously of all wrongs. Human chosen and human abused.

    Some claiming God advised. Others claiming why bring God into a human need for a mutual lived balanced rational human life shared advice.

    As a human owning one title human first.

    Working as a world communally for life evolution into a mutual spirituality. Human family.

    Yet organisation says I must organise it and always claim a named status for its implementation.

    Gods name being that imposed condition.

    The argument O earth as a God teaching one owns supported life. Of everything. A God with no name. Why give earth a named human organised title when God owned no name originally.

    Factually?

    Humans tried to give God a name and then claim only my organisation owns all truth's. By naming God as one ideal.

    When natural life family says otherwise. Freedom of life and free will human with God one planet unnamed?

    With most humans angry at being organisation controlled by name owners. Who preach we should live God....when a reactive one earth could destroy all life at any moment.

    Not sensible to anger humans living who are told by organisations you must love. When we do naturally without organised controls.

    Claiming my organisation not yours is correct.

    How about meeting as wise human beings from all countries as a human family using no name. Maybe then you will get it right and save human life from its self destructive behaviours.

    Organisation forced upon life being that historical human problem. Using names.
     
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    First of all, I find God and Lord are titles and Not a personal name.
    I find at John 17:6 and John 17:26 where Jesus says he manifested God's name and declared God's name and will declare God's name.
    God's personal name is represented by the Tetragrammaton YHWH.
    Ezekiel 38:23 informs us that God will magnify Himself..... (KJV - LORD at the end of verse 23)
    Where in the King James the word LORD is in all Upper-Case letters is where the Tetragrammaton stands.
    Thus, the difference between the two (2) LORD/Lord's as found in Psalms 110.
     
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    The facts are simply that the names of God in all the different religions reflect the human cultural and linguistic perspective of names of God.
     
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    Capitalization does not necessarily indicate a proper name.
     
  12. Revoltingest

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    The internet has changed that....damn young
    whippersnappers with their uncapitalized names!
    But typically God is one of the many gods people
    worship, eg, Thor, God, FSM, Zeus, Krom.
     
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    The word God capitalized is too generic in referring to God in different cultures using different proper names for their God as your response indicated. Christians often use small case god to refer to the God of the other religions.
     
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    That's inconsistent.
    I find it triggering.
     
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    Yes, the different religions are inconsistent in their names and descriptions of God, because it is their human cultural perspective.
     
  16. firedragon

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    How about Devian Wahansa and Allah?
     
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    How about YHWH?
     
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    Not familiar with 'Devian Whansa.' I did a search and Devian is the name of a Swedish heavy metal band. DevianArt? may refer to spiritual iconography art work (Buddhist?).

    Allah is simply the Arabic word for God.

    YHWH is a Hebrew name for God. A tetragrammaton of consonants The later Latinized version is Jehovah.
     
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    Yeah. I understand. Devian Wahansa is another word for God. Allah is as you said another word for God.

    So can you based on this substantiate your statement "The facts are simply that the names of God in all the different religions reflect the human cultural and linguistic perspective of names of God."

    You said all, but of course you would never know all the religions in the world. There is no way. So I think you should not make general statements like that. So can you now based on these two substantiate your statement above?

    P.S. YHWH means he exists.
     
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    I find nor reference to Devian Wahansa as referring to a name of God.

    Yes, based on the present known knowledge of the religions of the world I can easily make this statement and include those names of God from different religions that I may left out. I have spent over fifty years studying the different religions, and yes some like in the various Hindu variations there are many if not infinite names of God, but they remain names of God or Gods from the human perspective.

    By the way 'arguing from ignorance' of what may be unknown is not an effective argument.

    Yes YHWH roughly translates as you state, but many do refer to variations of YHWH as God. In the West the Jehovah Witness and others consider Jehovah as God.

    Yahweh | Translation, Elohim, Meaning, & Facts

    "Yahweh, the god [God} of the Israelites, whose name was revealed to Moses as four Hebrew consonants (YHWH) called the tetragrammaton."
     
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