Does faith compromise a person's ability to reason?

[strikeviperMKII]

Once hunger has been "satisfied",
"eating food" will no longer make you "less hungry".

True, but I did say you had to do faith correctly. Eating food when you're not hungry is not eating correctly...unless you're doing to for some other reason than to satisfy hunger.

Anyway, I'm curious,
perhaps I missed it,
what is this "outcome" of which you speak?

Specifically, I said that it will help you see more objectively than before.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

And what comes after the start?

To be honest, I don't know that yet. I haven't really gotten that far. I can say there's more, but I don't know what it is.

My thoughts?
It's funny how the results (of letting go) can be exactly the same,
and yet completely different....(for different people),
all at the same time....

It is interesting.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

i will also add...there is no one correct way.

No there isn't, and I'll never say there is only one way. It's counterproductive.

 

[Ben Masada]

If faith compromises a person's ability to reason? It surely does. Faith is just a small step into the condition of a fundamentalist. Once a faithful fundamentalist, a person becomes no different from the faithful of Jim Jones. Dangerous to him or herself and to the public in general. A faithful fundamentalist can't think straight.

 

[Vinayaka]

Wow. I've always seen it the other way around. Reasoning hinders faith.

 

[Madhuri]

that your opinion

Actually, it's a fact...

 

[outhouse]

faith is a convenient that way...
it's like an endless supply of water which finds any hole...

faith, the assurance of hope of things unseen. which ultimately blinds us to reality. it's as if we cannot accept what we see.

you mention physicists...but what stops them from moving forward is faith.
perhaps you've seen this... perhaps not.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrpPPV_yPY

thank you

this is a clear cut case of faith blinding reason

 

[Vendetta]

No there isn't, and I'll never say there is only one way. It's counterproductive.

I see you're Roman Catholic. That comment you made is surely contradictory. I thought there is one way and that is through christ....hmmm

 

[Vendetta]

faith is a convenient that way...
it's like an endless supply of water which finds any hole...

faith, the assurance of hope of things unseen. which ultimately blinds us to reality. it's as if we cannot accept what we see.

you mention physicists...but what stops them from moving forward is faith.
perhaps you've seen this... perhaps not.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrpPPV_yPY

Dude have you been reading anything I wrote?

We all have faith. Most commonly I would coin the term "social faith" meaning when we cross the street we have a kind of assurance that cars will yield to us and stop or we have an assurance that the mailman will show up. Sure these aren't gurantees but our unconscious mind does not worry whether cars will hit us or whether people will obey the law. We all have faith in unforseeable events. I will ask you, when does your mail come? You may say today at 'X' time. But it may not. For the religionist its a similar scale the only difference is that religionist and most specifically thrust have faith in incoporeal.deity or deities and subsequent doctrines that relate to that belief.

Most physicist I know at my university aren't prevented in explaining the laws of thermodynamics or spherical triganometry. Most people if faith in the educational field I am sure would say teaching enhances their faith because in part, you are able to discuss the wonders of "God's work."

 

[Breathe]

53.66% think religious faith compromises one's ability to reason?
Jeez.

 

[839311]

53.66% think religious faith compromises one's ability to reason?
Jeez.

Jeez as in that is too high, or too low?

 

[Breathe]

Jeez as in that is too high, or too low?

A Jeez as in that's a lot of people who paint others with an awfully broad brush.

 

[839311]

A Jeez as in that's a lot of people who paint others with an awfully broad brush.

You don't want to know the true number of people in the world that use that same brush...

 

[strikeviperMKII]

I see you're Roman Catholic. That comment you made is surely contradictory. I thought there is one way and that is through christ....hmmm

And what might you mean by 'through christ'?

 

[Breathe]

You don't want to know the true number of people in the world that use that same brush...

Make sense, please. I don't understand you.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

thank you

this is a clear cut case of faith blinding reason

I'd see this as people just being stupid and someone pointing out just how stupid their ideas have become. Of course, when you do faith wrong, that tends to happen.

 

[839311]

Make sense, please. I don't understand you.

I thought the message was clear. Im guessing you understand the meaning of a broad brush? If you are taken aback by the relatively small number of people who use that brush here, then you might be in for a serious shock if you found out what the total number of people in the world is who think that faith compromises a person's ability to reason.

 

[ninerbuff]

I'd see this as people just being stupid and someone pointing out just how stupid their ideas have become. Of course, when you do faith wrong, that tends to happen.

Come on now. Do you follow the no meat eating on Fridays during Lent? Or the praying to Mary? How about the "transforming" of water and wine to christ's blood? Should I go on?

 

[waitasec]

Dude have you been reading anything I wrote?

We all have faith. Most commonly I would coin the term "social faith" meaning when we cross the street we have a kind of assurance that cars will yield to us and stop or we have an assurance that the mailman will show up. Sure these aren't gurantees but our unconscious mind does not worry whether cars will hit us or whether people will obey the law. We all have faith in unforseeable events. I will ask you, when does your mail come? You may say today at 'X' time. But it may not. For the religionist its a similar scale the only difference is that religionist and most specifically thrust have faith in incoporeal.deity or deities and subsequent doctrines that relate to that belief.

Most physicist I know at my university aren't prevented in explaining the laws of thermodynamics or spherical triganometry. Most people if faith in the educational field I am sure would say teaching enhances their faith because in part, you are able to discuss the wonders of "God's work."

listen cupcake...i'm agreeing with you
that is why i said faith is convenient that way and fills up any hole...
from crossing the street to believing your parents are your parents to knowing your dog will greet you at the door.
i think you are perhaps mixing up faith with religious faith when you say..,

teaching enhances their faith because in part, you are able to discuss the wonders of "God's work

when one wonders one contemplates either; god did it or how was that done
one already limited itself the other keeps the options open. see what i mean?
but we are arrogant creatures, we do give ourselves an undue sense of importance, do we not? and faith is a symptom of arrogance because it assuredly assumes knowledge, like assuming your dog will greet you at the door...

 

[Breathe]

I thought the message was clear.

Your wording was not.

you might be in for a serious shock if you found out what the total number of people in the world is who think that faith compromises a person's ability to reason.

You expect me to believe the number of people who would say faith compromises a person's ability to reason (not can, but does - I have no doubt some people hide behind faith) will be larger than 53%?

Are we living on the same planet? :areyoucra


Either way, I'm not interested in the direct numbers, except that a large number of people are being painted with a mighty broad brush.