Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
The former.
I often envy theists the simple comforts of their particular brand of faith, but if you don't believe it....
Get over yourself, sister.
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The former.
I often envy theists the simple comforts of their particular brand of faith, but if you don't believe it....
For me, it's all about truth. Happiness is a whole separate issue.Okay, so it's been a while since I've posted a thread and I'm not sure how this'll turn out, but anyway I have a question:
Does the perception that your belief (or lack of belief) is true make you happy about your belief or does the happiness you get from your belief (or lack of belief) lead you to percieve your belief as true?
What about "I envy you" did you take as arrogant?Get over yourself, sister.
What about "I envy you" did you take as arrogant?
Not my intent.I dunno. It struck me as a little bit patronizing.
Well, Pete, maybe you're getting what you put into it.Religious Forums is becoming a very unfriendly place for me and I'm really upset about that.
Okay, so it's been a while since I've posted a thread and I'm not sure how this'll turn out, but anyway I have a question:
Does the perception that your belief (or lack of belief) is true make you happy about your belief or does the happiness you get from your belief (or lack of belief) lead you to percieve your belief as true?
That's actually a lot more convoluted even than it sounds because 'the perception that a belief is true' is not the same thing as 'having a (true) belief'. (In other words, the two sides of your see-saw aren't the same length.)
We believe things because they are perceived as true. I think I can answer your question best by saying I'm happy in my beliefs just because I have some.
Truth is irrelevant.
Well, Pete, maybe you're getting what you put into it.
The former.
I often envy theists the simple comforts of their particular brand of faith, but if you don't believe it....
I'm a white Christian heterosexual male.
I can't go anywhere in cyberspace where I'm not already despised.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You expect to be persecuted, so you see it everywhere you look. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.I'm a white Christian heterosexual male.
I can't go anywhere in cyberspace where I'm not already despised.
You lost me. Do you mean believing in God?As I envy you for doing the same as those theists.
I'm a white Christian heterosexual male.
I can't go anywhere in cyberspace where I'm not already despised.
firstly how would anyone on cyberspace know that?
:yes:
'kayNOTE: I have added a few more questions to the original post, please answer.
My "beliefs" are mostly lack of beliefs. For things that are believed, they are based on evidence. (As in, basic human history, workings of the world and the universe, etc.)What leads you to perceive your belief(s) as true?
I test all the parts, look for problems, and see how it is supposed to fit into a whole.What tools or processes do you use to scrutinize your belief(s) and their truth value?
Brutally.And are you being honest with yourself?
You lost me. Do you mean believing in God?
Everything. That's not a cop out. I reached my current beliefs by analyzing all the data I have available, from hard science to mysticism.What leads you to perceive your belief(s) as true?
Anything I can think of. Comparison to science is a big one, debate another.What tools or processes do you use to scrutinize your belief(s) and their truth value?
As much as anyone can be.And are you being honest with yourself?
'kay
My "beliefs" are mostly lack of beliefs. For things that are believed, they are based on evidence. (As in, basic human history, workings of the world and the universe, etc.)