Do You Agree With This Part Of The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021

[esmith]

Seem's that a not so well known section of the Dem's giveaway is $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers.
Paid To Stay Home— Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K
Now before the attacks begin, I am in favor of many sections of what is being purposed but there is a lot of "pork" or whatever you want to call it. For instance$1.5 million for the Seaway International Bridge between Massena, New York, and Canada, and $100 million toward construction of an underground rail line linking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district and Silicon Valley.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why not give the same to non-federal workers?

 

[McBell]

Seem's that a not so well known section of the Dem's giveaway is $570 million family leave account exclusively for federal workers.
Paid To Stay Home— Coronavirus Aid Bill Pays Federal Employees With Kids Out Of School Up To $21K
Now before the attacks begin, I am in favor of many sections of what is being purposed but there is a lot of "pork" or whatever you want to call it. For instance$1.5 million for the Seaway International Bridge between Massena, New York, and Canada, and $100 million toward construction of an underground rail line linking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district and Silicon Valley.

What, exactly, is your problem with it?

 

[Quintessence]

Why not give the same to non-federal workers?

Probably lack of authority.

 

[Revoltingest]

Probably lack of authority.

Lack of authority to give away money?
Nah.
They're already giving money to non-federal workers.
The federal workers are just getting much more.

 

[Quintessence]

Lack of authority to give away money?
Nah.
They're already giving money to non-federal workers.
The federal workers are just getting much more.

Can the government create family leave accounts for private corporations? I didn't think capitalism worked that way. Only socialism works that way.

 

[Revoltingest]

Can the government create family leave accounts for private corporations? I didn't think capitalism worked that way. Only socialism works that way.

The fed needn't give out money in the same form as its own
employees. They could simply hand out the $21K to non-fed
workers.
BTW, socialism is defined as the people owning the means of
production. This is something entirely different, ie, handing
out benefits. Capitalism is the system that generates the
taxes used for that purpose.

It appears that the fed values its own employees far more
than other workers. I wonder what their reasoning is?

 

[McBell]

Can the government create family leave accounts for private corporations? I didn't think capitalism worked that way. Only socialism works that way.

Seems to me that all the fed gov can do is provide funding to corps for it and then watch as the corps pocket the money.....

 

[Quintessence]

Seems to me that all the fed gov can do is provide funding to corps for it and then watch as the corps pocket the money.....

I don't know. All I know is distributing money to things one doesn't have direct control over is more complicated. I don't know how it all works. But it seems like being able to give some types of aid would hinge on broader labor reforms than what could reasonably be put into a pandemic relief bill. Setting up family leave within their wheelhouse is something they have authority to do, but I would guess it is harder to get that done for private corps? I don't know all the rules. Better something than nothing. Corpos can set up their own leave accounts with their big profits, right? Especially the places that have really benefited from the pandemic?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why not give the same to non-federal workers?

You noticed that too.

Special class and interests, and people wonder why it gets criticized all the time.

 

[esmith]

What, exactly, is your problem with it?

To start with, only employees with children in K-12 are covered.
How would you feel if the company you worked for did this and you were single or married without a child/children in K-12 school.
Is it also pandering to the all powerfull teachers union......keep the minions quiet when the schools are not open?

 

[ecco]

Seem's that a not so well known section of the Dem's giveaway is...and $100 million toward construction of an underground rail line linking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district and Silicon Valley.

My emphases
PolitiFact - Fact-checking whether Democrats’ ‘wish list’ is in $1.9 trillion relief bill​

The long-planned six-mile extension would include five miles in a subway beneath downtown San Jose, with construction expected to start in 2022 and the line carrying passengers in 2030, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. The newspaper says the project’s stimulus funding would be $141 million.



H.R.1319 does include some of the projects as described, but the post lacks context. For example, the largest of the six — $1.5 billion for Amtrak — was also requested by the Trump administration to help the railroad operate during the pandemic.


Stephen Ellis, president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, points out that the amounts in the post account for about $2.2 billion of the $1.9 trillion bill, or .001%.​

The Dems giveaway, Uh huh.

Did you intentionally omit the facts behind your claims or did you just see a headline and decide to jump on it because it was something allegedly against the Dems?

 

[tytlyf]

Why not give the same to non-federal workers?

Non-federal workers aren't paid with tax dollars.

 

[Left Coast]

To start with, only employees with children in K-12 are covered.
How would you feel if the company you worked for did this and you were single or married without a child/children in K-12 school.

I would think, "Yeah, the average employee with young children probably needs financial support more than me. Good for them."

 

[Revoltingest]

Non-federal workers aren't paid with tax dollars.

Yes they are. Just not as wages.
Money is paid in the Covid relief programs.
Even I got some in the last go-around.

To @Wu Wei....thank you for your service.

 

[tytlyf]

Yes they are. Just not as wages.
Money is paid in the Covid relief programs.
Even I got some in the last go-around.

To @Wu Wei....thank you for your service.

The discussion is about federal wages. Not non-federal wages not paid with tax dollars.

 

[Revoltingest]

The discussion is about federal wages. Not non-federal wages not paid with tax dollars.

The discussion is about handing out money,
be it in the form of wages or other assistance.

 

[tytlyf]

The discussion is about handing out money,
be it in the form of wages or other assistance.

But the RW narrative is why can't non-federal workers get $1400 a week. I'm pointing out non-federal workers aren't paid with tax dollars. There are federal budgets for federal employees.

I'd prefer the money go to federal American workers, not corporate elitists (handful of people)

 

[Revoltingest]

But the RW narrative is why can't non-federal workers get $1400 a week. I'm pointing out non-federal workers aren't paid with tax dollars. There are federal budgets for federal employees.

The fed could give that much money to other people.
They just choose not to.

 

[metis]

Why is it that so many who were 100% with the Trump tax cuts back a few years ago are whining so much now? Gee, some might think they're being hypocritical.