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Featured Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by whirlingmerc, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. URAVIP2ME

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    ... and I find that city dump (Gehenna) was a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed forever.
    So, it is No wonder that Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be 'destroyed forever'.
     
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    Yes.. that's where they burned their garbage.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    But it’s not so definitive as the others. There are no post-resurrection appearances, no ascension, no proclamation. Just a cliffhanger.
     
  5. Kilk1

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    For purposes of citation, what ancient sources are you referencing that speak of Agustus's supernatural birth and resurrection? Also, who postulates that Jesus's story was taken from him? Thanks in advance. :)
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Something I picked up in a class on the Synoptics in seminary. I’d have to look up the reference. Unfortunately, we’ve recently moved and all my books are still packed.
     
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    paarsurrey said:
    Such things happen sometimes. Yes, she was a virgin and nobody had sex with her before Jesus birth. It is a rare possibility, but it does happen, one in millions, please.

    Regards
    And one's argument please?
    Regards
     
  8. Subduction Zone

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    Parthenogenesis can only result in female births.
     
  9. We Never Know

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    :facepalm:
     
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    And when and how to face palm is a skill that is lacking too.

    You screwed up, you could not admit it. Let me explain how you screwed up, you took others too literally. That is a problem that creationists tend to have. Try to read a little deeper into posts. If you don't understand ask questions politely.
     
  11. paarsurrey

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    History* tells us that an ancestor of Genghis Khan was also born from a virgin. Right, please?
    There are sometimes and or always some exceptions.Right, please?
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    * Lococo Paul, Genghis Khan: History's Greatest Empire Builder, Potomac Books, 2008
     
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    No. It does not. That may have been a myth about him, but historians usually can separate reality from fantasy.
     
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    There it is! When you can't beat them, call them a creationist. You probably have more belief for a god than I've ever had.
     
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    Texts should be true occurrences, of course. What do you mean by re-think that line of reasoning?
     
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    I gave a reference of a book of history.
    Regards
     
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    I could quote and link Wiki, that beats a so called reference book with no links. No real historian would take that claim seriously. I see two possibilities. You either misunderstood your source, or you picked a very very poor source.
     
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    Look at how you refuse to understand your errors. I said that you were like a creationist in that regard, not that you were one. You can do better than this.
     
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    He was pointing out that your sort of thinking leads to self contradiction.
     
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    I understand. Nevertheless, I have a feeling that once we see the sources, connecting Jesus to Augustus will not work.
     
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    I dunno... I was convinced.
     
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