Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

[We Never Know]

Nope, you are still confused.

Let's try this one more time.

This poster says;

Crossan goes on to say that Jesus body was likely thrown to the dogs...

This poster replies with;

Crossan doesn't have the first piece of evidence to back that up. It's just more of Crossan's hot air claims.

You reply with;

You are mistaken on who has the burden of proof in this case.

So I ask you again, how does the burden of prove rest upon Spartan when he says the claim was unsupported?

 

[We Never Know]

If you could ask politely and properly you might get an answer.

Go play your game with others. I'm not interested. But instead of playing your game, how about you answer my last post.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let's try this one more time.

This poster says;


This poster replies with;



You reply with;



So I ask you again, how does the burden of prove rest upon Spartan when he says the claim was unsupported?

Selective quoting does not help. That is why you are still confused.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Go play your game with others. I'm not interested. But instead of playing your game, how about you answer my last post.

No, you were rude, as usual. I am tired of it. You have a lot of apologizing to do before anyone can take you seriously.

 

[We Never Know]

Selective quoting does not help. That is why you are still confused.

You duck and dodge any way you can.

It's not selective quoting if the quotes are in order of posting and replies. That's called direct quoting.

 

[We Never Know]

No, you were rude, as usual. I am tired of it. You have a lot of apologizing to do before anyone can take you seriously.

Your normal lol. Always accuse others and play victim to avoid responding and answering for your posts.

Rude? False accusations are against the rules here.
I think that falls under rule 3: trolling and bullying. The mods will have to make that choice.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You duck and dodge any way you can.

It's not selective quoting if the quotes are in order of posting and replies. That's called direct quoting.

Please, don't spread falsehoods. You came late to the discussion. You were rude from the start. You really should try to be polite for once.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your normal lol. Always accuse others and play victim to avoid responding and answering for your posts.

Rude? False accusations are against the rules here.
I think that falls under rule 3: trolling and bullying. The mods will have to make that choice.

Hardly. I am simply not l playing your game. Once again, try being polite for once. If anything the false accusations, trolling, and bullying have come from you.


When two people are having a discussion one must be polite when one jumps into the middle of it.

 

[We Never Know]

Hardly. I am simply not l playing your game. Once again, try being polite for once. If anything the false accusations, trolling, and bullying have come from you.


When two people are having a discussion one must be polite when one jumps into the middle of it.

Look fella. You faslely claimed the burden of proof was upon on someone that disagreed with a claim because it wasn't supported with evidence.

I called you out on it and simply asked you why.

You went into a tailspin and started accusing me of being lost, late, rude, selective quoting, etc. I've already asked the mods to intervene and look it over. We are done until then.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look fella. You faslely claimed the burden of proof was upon on someone that disagreed with a claim because it wasn't supported with evidence.

I called you out on it and simply asked you why.

You went into a tailspin and started accusing me of being lost, late, rude, selective quoting, etc. I've already asked the mods to intervene and look it over. We are done until then.

No, you are wrong. That's what happens one rudely jumps into the middle of a conversation.

 

[paarsurrey]

Then have a discussion with those that believe that. I was trying to explain that the virgin birth story was a myth that was based upon a mistranslation of a verse that was not even a prophesy in the first place. Some Christians put far too much stock in a literal interpretation of the Bible.

And you are right. I sort of supported you in the matter.
I am doing a discussion with them. see my posts in other threads with a similar topics, please.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Mary was likely not even a Virgin before Jesus was born.

Such things happen sometimes. Yes, she was a virgin and nobody had sex with her before Jesus birth. It is a rare possibility, but it does happen, one in millions, please.

Regards

 

[Subduction Zone]

Such things happen sometimes. Yes, she was a virgin and nobody had sex with her before Jesus birth. It is a rare possibility, but it does happen, one in millions, please.

Regards

Except that Jesus is the wrong sex if this occurred.

 

[Kilk1]

Crossan goes on to say that Jesus body was likely thrown to the dogs...

That's his opinion. It isn't surprising or significant when skeptics disagree with Christians; the sphere of agreement is where we should work from.

 

[sooda]

Such things happen sometimes. Yes, she was a virgin and nobody had sex with her before Jesus birth. It is a rare possibility, but it does happen, one in millions, please.

Regards

That's fundamental to the myth.

 

[sojourner]

To sojourner: Here's a photo of Mark chapter 16 showing it's only verses 9-20 that are not in the earliest manuscripts.

9-20 is most of the chapter. David Rhoads, Markan scholar, asserts that the additions are inconsistent with the rest of the gospel. I agree.

 

[sojourner]

That's news to me. Let's see Crossan's evidence that dogs ate the body of Jesus?

See post #800. This is how victims of crucifixion were normally treated. It’s why JoA had to beg for the body. There’s no evidence, though that that actually happened.

 

[sojourner]

Not so. It's only verses 16:9-20 that are not in the earliest manuscripts (though they could have been oral traditions). Most study Bibles have that specifically noted.

“Not in earliest manuscripts” = “ later addition.”

 

[sojourner]

So I ask you again, how does the burden of prove rest upon Spartan when he says the claim was unsupported

Because the USUAL treatment of crucifixion victims was as Crossan claims. Jesus was crucified, therefore it’s LIKELY that he was thrown to the dogs. Based on what is known about the procedure. It would have been UNLIKELY for him to have been buried. That’s Crossan’s argument, and it’s a good one.

 

[sojourner]

Such things happen sometimes. Yes, she was a virgin and nobody had sex with her before Jesus birth. It is a rare possibility, but it does happen, one in millions, please.

Regards

The text does not use the term “virgin.” At all.