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Featured Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by whirlingmerc, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. lukethethird

    lukethethird Active Member

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    Some people convince more easily than others, it's a matter of degrees. Most people claim to know whether Jesus was historical or not, so there you go.
     
  2. Kilk1

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    "The first one to plead his cause seems right,
    Until his neighbor comes and examines him" (Prov. 18:17, NKJV).

    It's easy to be convinced when you only here one side. Be careful in that regard.
     
  3. Prince Mthembu

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    Who Is the Real Jesus? - Y-Jesus.com

    What about this, Mr Sub?
     
  4. Prince Mthembu

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    For Genesis in the Bible check this one out...
    Has Science Discovered God? - Y-Jesus.com
     
  5. Prince Mthembu

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    Ho w
    How have I contradicted myself thus far?
     
  6. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Some people are also trained to think critically about the information that’s set before them, to weigh evidence and formulate a realistic stance. This part of what we learn in seminary.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    I’ve heard many sides. Trust me. A good seminary is broad in its teaching.
     
  8. Subduction Zone

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    That looks like it fails. For some strange reason they seem to think that the Gospels are eyewitness testimonies. None of them are.
     
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    By not accepting other religions with the same sort of evidence. Did you not understand his point?
     
  10. Subduction Zone

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    Another failure. It makes the unsupported claim that DNA indicates intelligence. That has never been shown to be the case. They also think that the fact that the universe as we know it is evidence for God. It isn't. It only shows that the universe began.

    In fact those people do not understand the nature of scientific evidence. There is no scientific evidence for God and you can support that claim. Tell me, what reasonable test could refute the existence of God?
     
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  11. Kilk1

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    That may be true. Even then, however, you could have gotten significant details wrong, as we all are susceptible to do. Are you sure it was Augustus? If so, does legend give him a supernatural birth, a resurrection, or both?
     
  12. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    He had a miraculous birth, and became a Roman state deity after his death. He was proclaimed as “savior.”
     
  13. Kilk1

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    So there wasn't any bodily resurrection, just a miraculous birth? When was the legend created? Before or after the Gospels and 1 Corinthians 15:3-8?
     
  14. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Before.
     
  15. lukethethird

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    So much for critical thinking.
     
  16. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Indeed? Augustus died in 14 CE and was raised to the status of state deity. The first gospel was produced post 70 CE. 1Cor. was written 53-57 CE.
     
  17. lukethethird

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    Sorry, got our heroes mixed up, my bad.
     
  18. We Never Know

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    :facepalm: <<< that's all you get and deserve.
    However you've earned the trophy :trophy: as grand champion of pigeon chess.
    Enjoy it well. Have a good what ever it is you have.
     
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  19. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    No worries!
     
  20. Kilk1

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    So no resurrection? Then what does it have to do with Jesus' resurrection?
     
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