Could the Hyksos be the Ancient Hebrew of the bible?

[Jayhawker Soule]

A non sequitor. Nice try though.

Do you understand what "non sequitur" means?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Do you understand what "non sequitur" means?

Yes, just not how to spell it.

 

[ProfLogic]

The problem here is that you are arguing one point (that there is no evidence that the Exodus occurred) - and thinking that that proves an entirely different point (that the Hyksos are the Hebrews of the Exodus and they invented God to cover their tracks).

Even if you can prove conclusively that the Exodus did not occur, it proves absolutely nothing about the point you are actually trying to argue.

On the contrary, the exodus seems to point to the expulsion of the Hyksos which is documented in history, thus it is strongly possible that they are the ancient hebrews. God was already before that time, so saying that they are chosen people of a self proclaimed god is a great strategy to manipulate the uneducated portion of their population which in ancient times was the majority.

 

[gnostic]

But the Hyksos expulsion happen at least 200, if not 300 years before that of the Hebrew's expulsion. The Hyksos were driven out of Egypt and into Canaan in the reign of Ahmose I, the 18th Dynasty's first king, and before Jacob's arrival. Not long after that the Hyksos ceased to exist, even in Canaan.

Although, the Hyksos brought new technology after the fall of Middle Kingdom dynasty (around 1630), they didn't change Egyptian culture, instead they became Egyptianised.

The link between Hyksos and Hebrews are at best very tenuous, spread by Flavius Josephus, who as a historian, often exaggerate and mis-chronologised events. He can't even keep history accurate in his own time, let alone history in old biblical time.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The link between Hyksos and Hebrews are at best very tenuous, spread by Flavius Josephus, who as a historian, often exaggerate and mis-chronologised events.

Josephus was simply echoing Manetho.

The fact remains that all available evidence points away from an Exodus/Conquest and towards the gradual accretion of Israelite culture in the highlands beginning in the 12 century BCE.

 

[gnostic]

But the problem with Manetho is that he is not as well known to other people, unless these happened to be interested in Egyptian history. Flavius Josephus is more better known, internationally-wise, than Manetho. Even today, Manetho's writing is hard to get a hold on than Josephus' work.