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Christians & Jews not accepting Allah?

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
I am so sad that some muslims abuse God as if He only belongs to themselves. Our path to reach Him may vary due to cultural thing but the notion and essence still remain the same. He who cannot see this unfortunately has a soul devoted to abyss.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Yes, of course he does, especially when quoting the Hebrew Scriptures where God's name appears thousands of times.

Of course it does appear in the OT.

I said Matthew. Anyway, thats not relevant to this topic. Sorry for bringing it up.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I am so sad that some muslims abuse God as if He only belongs to themselves. Our path to reach Him may vary due to cultural thing but the notion and essence still remain the same. He who cannot see this unfortunately has a soul devoted to abyss.

Actually you are wrong there brother. The Muslim position is that we all worship God.
 

midopafo

Member
Do Jews and Christians believe Allah is their God?


Whats interesting is how Christians of West says Allah is not their god because of words they claim such as cruelty and unforgiving. The irony is that they take OT as holy Book, we all know how God is portrayed in OT.

So why are they also not sayng: God of OT is not our God.


Just wondering who is the Servant you serve, just asking, you know to establish our positions. So to the question, Allah is a Moslem word, nothing to do with the Bible or historical history till the 5th century., so chew on that !
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
May you please elaborate? This is something of a sore spot and I would welcome some clarification on what is claimed.

Muslim position is detailed in the Quran. There is no deity but God. You can say it this way as well, There is no God but God.

Yes God is one, but when you say there is one God it does not represent the correct meaning of it. God is one.

Whenever anyone worships God its God we worship. Hope you understand. Unless we worship a human being, a creature, a rock, temple or something we can define like a man. Thats when the separation comes.

No matter what you call God, YHWH, El, Elohim, Adonai, Shaddai, Kadawul, Got, Here, Devi, Davous, what ever, its God.

Since you cant define God.

The God is one
There is nothing like him
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Muslim position is detailed in the Quran. There is no deity but God. You can say it this way as well, There is no God but God.

Sure, Islam (the religion, not the abstract concept) is monotheistic.

How that would make all people worshippers of its God, though, it quite beyond me.


Yes God is one, but when you say there is one God it does not represent the correct meaning of it. God is one.

Whenever anyone worships God its God we worship. Hope you understand.
Apparently I do not. It sounds... quite weird really. As if someone terribly misunderstood the point of god-concepts and decided to lend it a whole lot more significance than it could ever support.

Unless we worship a human being, a creature, a rock, temple or something we can define like a man. Thats when the separation comes.

No matter what you call God, YHWH, El, Elohim, Adonai, Shaddai, Kadawul, Got, Here, Devi, Davous, what ever, its God.

Since you cant define God.

The God is one
There is nothing like him

That is entirely self-contradictory, alas. As one approaches monotheism, there comes a necessary duty to accept that one has his or her own conception of deity and is ultimately betting on its accuracy.

Expecting others to by chance share of it is, at best, unwise.

Expecting everyone to.... is just weird really.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
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Sure, Islam (the religion, not the abstract concept) is monotheistic.

How that would make all people worshippers of its God, though, it quite beyond me.



Apparently I do not. It sounds... quite weird really. As if someone terribly misunderstood the point of god-concepts and decided to lend it a whole lot more significance than it could ever support.



That is entirely self-contradictory, alas. As one approaches monotheism, there comes a necessary duty to accept that one has his or her own conception of deity and is ultimately betting on its accuracy.

Expecting others to by chance share of it is, at best, unwise.

Expecting everyone to.... is just weird really.
Okay.

Cheers.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What now? Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the god of Abraham.
Eh. To make that statement true one would have to dilute the meaning of "belief in the same God" so much that you could say that inanimate objects believe in the same god as well.

Meaningful god-beliefs are about as personal entities as they come. One would be hard pressed to find even two Muslims who truly believe in the same God.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Allah is a Moslem word, nothing to do with the Bible or historical history till the 5th century., so chew on that !

God is an English word, nothing to do with the Bible or historical history till the 11th century., so chew on that!



What now? Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the god of Abraham.

People claim all sorts of stuff.
The good part is that these different religions claim all sorts of different stuff that simply does not work together.

It would be ridiculous to believe that the deity said all sorts of stuff in Book 1 and then revised everything in Book 2 and 3. That's a really weird deity.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Every one Believes in the same God
However what we believe "About" him differs considerably.
Our scriptures, Dogmas and Practices also differ considerably.
There can be only one creator God
We know of only one creation.
There are many ways to worship God.
there are Infinite names of God.
Our individual beliefs have no effect on God.
We are all equal creatures of God
no matter what our beliefs.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Just wondering who is the Servant you serve, just asking, you know to establish our positions. So to the question, Allah is a Moslem word, nothing to do with the Bible or historical history till the 5th century., so chew on that !
Allah is an Arabic word. It means the god. Not a Muslim word. If you are an Arab you will call god Allah, even if you are Christian.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
"Allah" (Arabic) and "Eloheim" (Hebrew) both come from what we often call the "El tradition", with "El" being a name for a god in ancient Sumeria. Same God, different names because of different languages.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Allah is a Moslem word, nothing to do with the Bible or historical history till the 5th century., so chew on that !

Allah is an Arabic word. There are Eastern Orthodox Christians whose first language is Arabic. They call God Allah.
 
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