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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by ecco, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Norman Beall

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    Ask an american if i wish i lived in the USA. any topic.
     
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    So does the New Testament give any idea of where they are today?
    It would be fascinating to study someone who has been alive for 2000 years.
     
  3. Norman Beall

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    One is alive today. The one christ said God would send in his name to teach the truth of all things, to bring to your remembrance the things he said.

    is that you written about in the scriptures that christ warned humanity about to come in his name?
     
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    It's not about being alive for 2000 years, it's about God speaking with individuals of our past telling them about humans to come, which is how humans of our past wrote about individuals to come.
     
  5. robocop (actually)

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    My guess is they go incognito so people don't try to kill them and because it would bring people to believe in Christianity superstitiously.
     
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    Are you talking about John the Revelator?
     
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    How do you suppose they get around with no identity documents?
     
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    There was a movie about a woman who was very very old. She got fake ID.
     
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    That's my theory.
     
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    Don't interpret the Second Coming with the life time of his Disciples. Paul
    himself spoke of when this event will happen. So too did John in Revelations.
    Makes no sense to send the Messiah out to the Gentiles, then cut short the
    ministry because it's all over.
     
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    As long as you capitalize "Truth" and/or add the ™ sign, you can say what you want as that has become in indicator for religious Truth™, i.e. **** you made up or got from a book who's author made it up.
     
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    And ridicule, lots of ridicule, telling them on the emotional level that they left the community of rational people.
     
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    Makes perfect sense if He was just an ordinary human and not anyone's Messiah.
     
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    Either that or Jesus lied.
     
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    Yep. And that's why I would hide that at all costs.
     
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    Or could have been delusional, either way.
     
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    That's nice. God gave you a brain. It doesn't mean theists can not get to heaven .
    That's nice. God gave you a brain. It doesn't mean theists can't be right.
     
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    Q kind of shocked me. I expected a different thing. Now I realise this is something absolutely different and I have no idea about it.

    Yet, very interesting topic for me to follow and understand. Whats going on?? :)
     
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    Well, here's the Problem. Jesus wasn't an 'ordinary human' - for starters he is the
    most famous man in history, without inventing, killing or conquering anyone.
    Jacob in Egypt Bronze Age spoke of the Hebrews having their own nation but it
    would end with the Messiah coming, and he would be not for the Jews as much
    as the whole world.
    Job early Iron Age said the Messiah was already alive and one day would 'stand
    upon the earth.'
    Zechariah said the Jews would mourn when they see their Messiah King as being
    the same lowly man they crucified. And Daniel said the Romans would 'cut off' the
    Messiah when they destroyed Israel - but the Messiah would die for his people,
    not himself.
     
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    I think it is the Christian duty of these pastors (it's never priests, I notice) to stress the importance of truth to their flocks and disabuse them of this nonsense.

    I am sure many of them will do just that, as the pastor referred to in this piece seems to be thinking.
     
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