Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

[Dan From Smithville]

Wiki is not up to date .. 40,000 year old symbols found in caves worldwide may represent the earliers written language.

40,000-Year-Old Symbols Found in Caves Worldwide May Be the Earliest Written Language

We also have the romanian Tatara tablets now At least 5500 BC and could be Older .. 1500 years earlier than 4000 BC when the earth was created

Thanks for the update.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Wiki is not up to date .. 40,000 year old symbols found in caves worldwide may represent the earliers written language.

40,000-Year-Old Symbols Found in Caves Worldwide May Be the Earliest Written Language

We also have the romanian Tatara tablets now At least 5500 BC and could be Older .. 1500 years earlier than 4000 BC when the earth was created

The main point is that writing systems didn't just suddenly appear fully formed as suggested by @SavedByTheLord.

 

[YoursTrue]

Again, not really sure why the bother, since you aren't interested in doing more than repeating your claims and declaring victory for no apparent reason. Are you familiar with the phrase "pigeon chess" by any chance?

Anyway, here goes.

Prehistory - Wikipedia

Paleolithic Art – Art and Visual Culture: Prehistory to Renaissance

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christopher-Henshilwood/publication/265420471_Henshilwood_C_d'Errico_F_editors_2011_Homo_symbolicus_The_dawn_of_language_imagination_and_spirituality_Amsterdam_Benjamins/links/540ec3d70cf2d8daaacd6ca6/Henshilwood-C-dErrico-F-editors-2011-Homo-symbolicus-The-dawn-of-language-imagination-and-spirituality-Amsterdam-Benjamins.pdf#page=63

Zigzags on a Shell From Java Are the Oldest Human Engravings
This talks about the 500,000 year old artwork of Homo erectus.

I know you will wave this all away. It is the only real contribution you seem able to make. But the evidence is out there.

From the article on Wikipedia
I see this statement: "The use of symbols, marks, and images appears very early among humans, but the earliest known writing systems appeared c. 5,000 years ago."

What's your point?

Writing systems didn't appear out of nothing. There was something going on before that and the archaeological evidence exists for that something.

The point is that according to this, the earliest known writing systems appeared about 5,000 years ago.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

From the article on Wikipedia
I see this statement: "The use of symbols, marks, and images appears very early among humans, but the earliest known writing systems appeared c. 5,000 years ago."

The point is that according to this, the earliest known writing systems appeared about 5,000 years ago.

Are you under the impression that this is an area of contention here?

The first extensive use of a writing system starts around 5,000 years ago. I don't know that this is disputed.

If you think they arose out of nothing or before or after that time, then you are free to support that with the evidence that has convinced you.

 

[YoursTrue]

Thanks for the update.

I certainly didn't say the earth was created 6000 years ago.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I certainly didn't say the earth was created 6000 years ago.

Well, good for you. Did someone say you did? What's your point?

 

[Sargonski]

The main point is that writing systems didn't just suddenly appear fully formed as suggested by @SavedByTheLord.

Yes .. that one has many holes .. starting with the "No assumptions allowed" fallacy

Continuous culture in various places round the world during the Biblical Flood date 2100-2300 ... and through the possible Biblical flood date .. is a hard nail in the coffin .. similar to writing evolving ... changing .. Pottery .. customs .. diet .. and now DNA .. all that should have come to a hard end... so you find one culture -language .. writing pottery prior to above date range .. there is abrupt end .. and obvious the next folks to come along some hundreds of years later are going to be speaking a different language .. different art .. culture .. DNA

but .. sorry .. that is not what we find.. continuous culture throughout in China - Australia - South America - North America -Mesopotamia --Akkadians - Sumerians .. in Egypt . .and on ... and on and on.. none of these folks dissappeared on account of every land creature dying in some flood ..

 

[YoursTrue]

Well, good for you. Did someone say you did? What's your point?

Sorry, it was Sargonski that implied it jokingly of course in a post 2961 above. Thanks about saying good for you to me.

 

[ratiocinator]

What happens to time at the speed of light?

Relevance?

a lot of possibilities, potentials, probabilities but no one is for sure and no one can actually explain what pushed it other that “evolution”.

This is much more an abiogenesis question. I was talking about evolution.

Please note: “strongly suggest” and not “we know” or “it is empirically verified”.

Note: "As such, the hypothesis that humans are genetically derived from a single ancestral pair in the recent past has no support from a genomics perspective, and, indeed, is counter to a large body of evidence."

I certainly am not the expert but can only offer “other viewpoints"

This appears to be an attempt at identifying some ancestors without them being the only humans.

Yes… there are always two sides to every coin and two differing viewpoints to what we see

This is a local flood.

but what if all the floods weren’t regional?

If you watch the video you'll see why the evidence is all against the literal biblical account.

 

[exchemist]

You could try and keep it simple. And then when asked questions, explain in your own words with your own understanding. That's one possibility.

What a joke. You have spent literally years demanding explanations - and even claiming to have read about the subject - only to deliberately fail to learn a single thing from what you have been repeatedly told.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

What a joke. You have spent literally years demanding explanations - and even claiming to have read about the subject - only to deliberately fail to learn a single thing from what you have been repeatedly told.

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?

 

[GardenLady]

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?

If you want an answer, please define "creature." Do you mean bacteria? Single cell organism? Multicellular organism?

 

[McBell]

If you want an answer, please define "creature." Do you mean bacteria? Single cell organism? Multicellular organism?

They define "creature" to mean grasses.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?

That'll show em. Irrelevant questions out of context and any answer must surely demonstrate your claims. Surely?

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That'll show em. Irrelevant questions out of context and any answer must surely demonstrate your claims. Surely?

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
What was the third living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fourth living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fifth living creature and what features did it have?
Now continue to at least the first 100.

 

[McBell]

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
What was the third living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fourth living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fifth living creature and what features did it have?
Now continue to at least the first 100.

you first.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

you first.

Read Genesis 1.
Your turn.

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
What was the third living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fourth living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fifth living creature and what features did it have?
Now continue to at least the first 100.

 

[McBell]

Read Genesis 1.
Your turn.

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
What was the third living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fourth living creature and what features did it have?
What was the fifth living creature and what features did it have?
Now continue to at least the first 100.

Fail.
You did not answer any of your own questions.

Since you can not answer them, why should anyone else bother?

 

[Eddi]

Ok. Why do you think my answer about writing and calendars has to do with creation of the world. I didn't say that. You did.

I already said that I got you and SBTL mixed up, did you not read that post?

 

[Eddi]

You're not making sense.

I put something to you and you replied

"ok, very good. Take care and have a nice day"

That's called running away and hiding