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Catholic Church Stolen Babies Scandal in Australia: Nuns drug women to steal their babies

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by dust1n, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. dust1n

    dust1n Zindīq

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  2. Renji

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    Gawd, please cast them out of the church! :p
     
  3. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    Somehow, I'm not buying this.
     
  4. Madhuri

    Madhuri RF Goddess Staff Member Premium Member

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    Why not?
     
  5. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    I don't know. I guess it's that I'd like to think that people, especially Catholics, aren't that stupid. But, then again, my optimism for humanity has been proven wrong before, and by even by Catholics...
     
  6. Renji

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    I'm not stupid. bless you...
     
  7. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    Most of your average Catholics aren't stupid. But the hierarchy, that's another story. Something's been going on in the Catholic church since around Vat II, and it's not good.
     
  8. Madhuri

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    I don't think this story is made up. Plenty of scandals going on all the time. This one during a time when they could more easily get away with it. The women were probably young and out of wedlock, so from a Catholic perspective of that particular institution at the time, they probably thought they were doing what was best for the child.
     
  9. Pegg

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    I know it seems impossible that it could happen, but it did happen absolutely not doubt in my mind because my mother had her baby taken from her.

    She was 17 and unmarried... her experience is very much like the lady in the clip. She was drugged when she went into labor and told it was pain relief, she heard the baby cry after it was born, then they took the child away and mum said she passed out, then when she woke up was told her baby had died. That was it. No death notice, no viewing of the body nothing...just thanks for coming see you later.

    so i believe this story is quite true.
     
  10. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    I guess instead of me saying "I'm not buying this", what I should have said was "I don't want to believe it, because I don't want to believe that humanity can be this appalling."
     
  11. Madhuri

    Madhuri RF Goddess Staff Member Premium Member

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    Unfortunately, humans do far worse all the time.
     
  12. Pegg

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    we can do some pretty horrid things to each other

    it makes the reality of this scriptures so clear:
    Ecclesiastics 8:9 All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury
     
    not nom likes this.
  13. dust1n

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  14. Godobeyer

    Godobeyer Islam mean Surrender2God

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    the human made errors , whatever his religion or faith way .

    the good one who admit that , and try to pray/return to his God to forgive him .
     
  15. dust1n

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    So, no investigations or arrest for those who perpetuated this and are still alive?
     
  16. Godobeyer

    Godobeyer Islam mean Surrender2God

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    of course they should punished by the law .
     
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  17. JustWondering

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    The Catholic Church has said sorry, isn't that enough?
     
  18. Terrywoodenpic

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    The British government was caught up in a similar scandal. They forcibly exported orphans and children from problem families to Australia and Canada. They became virtual slaves in their new homes. The government has now apologised.
    The catholic Church and western governments are responsible for many outrages concerning babies, children and young women. certainly from Victorian times to the late 70's ( may be still).

    We have no Idea what goes on in the Middle East and the East.

    For those responsible for the care of the vulnerable to act like this, is beyond outrageous
     
  19. Looncall

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    Yes, it is outrageous, but it is just what one should expect given the way religion erodes morals. The most dangerous people around are those who think their actions are divinely sanctioned.
     
  20. dust1n

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    I figure human trafficking has been an age ol' practice, but I find it peculiar that those who would seemingly be the most appropriate the trust were probably one of the statistically worst places to go.
     
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