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Baha'i Totalitarian Oligarchy?

ppp

ppp

Well-Known Member
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
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I tend to think Bahai's are not that pronounced.
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
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I don't worry about Bahai. There is something totalitarian going on worldwide now, that worries me much more.
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

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Disturbing.
 
George-ananda

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
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Some truth but you are presenting it in a negative way.

The truth is that the Baha'is envision a day when the entire world will willingly come together under the dispensation of Baha'u'llah. A Baha'i Administrative Order will replace the crumbling institutions of the past.



The details on how this will work out are to be revealed when the time comes.
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
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Apparently not. Or at least, I can't find much of this at the relevant link: Home

It seems there is a concept called a World Order of Baha'ullah: World Order of Baháʼu'lláh - Wikipedia
but this appears to be a lot more modest in its (nevertheless absurd and unattainable) aims.:rolleyes:
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Joe W said:
"Basically councils of nine Baha’is would run everything in a totalitarian democracy with voting limited to Baha’is. All nations would be either principalities (under a Baha’i prince) or electorates (under a Baha’i elector)." -- Source

Is this true?
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It's a daydream. Daydreams aren't reality, and are unlikely to come true. Doesn't mean one can't dream.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
George-ananda said:
Some truth but you are presenting it in a negative way.

The truth is that the Baha'is envision a day when the entire world will willingly come together under the dispensation of Baha'u'llah. A Baha'i Administrative Order will replace the crumbling institutions of the past.

The details on how this will work out are to be revealed when the time comes.
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:) (Sorry for the shocking language.)

 
ppp

ppp

Well-Known Member
George-ananda said:
Some truth but you are presenting it in a negative way.

The truth is that the Baha'is envision a day when the entire world will willingly come together under the dispensation of Baha'u'llah. A Baha'i Administrative Order will replace the crumbling institutions of the past.
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You say it is only "some truth" But your post does not contradict or correct anything that the author said. Which statements were false? Or partially false? And in what way?
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Vinayaka said:
It's a daydream. Daydreams aren't reality, and are unlikely to come true. Doesn't mean one can't dream.
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It is nobody's daydream. It is a complete misrepresentation of the vision of Baha'u'llah.
Joe W said:
You say it is only "some truth" But your post does not contradict or correct anything that the author said. Which statements were false? Or partially false? And in what way?
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I am not up on this aspect of the Baha'i Faith, so I have asked some other more knowledgeable Baha'is to jump in, lest I put my foot in my mouth. ;):(
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Joe W said:
You say it is only "some truth" But your post does not contradict or correct anything that the author said. Which statements were false? Or partially false? And in what way?
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Okay, I will make a stab at it.

The truth is that the Baha'is envision a day when the entire world will willingly come together under the dispensation of Baha'u'llah.

I believe this is true, but that could only happen after everyone in the world has recognized Baha'u'llah, and nobody knows if or when that will happen. However, there are indications that it will indeed happen eventually:

“Warn and acquaint the people, O Servant, with the things We have sent down unto Thee, and let the fear of no one dismay Thee, and be Thou not of them that waver. The day is approaching when God will have exalted His Cause and magnified His testimony in the eyes of all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 248

A Baha'i Administrative Order will replace the crumbling institutions of the past.
I do not know that this is true. According to my understanding, the Baha'i Faith will never be involved in politics, but rather governments will voluntarily chose to model themselves after the Baha'i Institutions that are now in place.
 
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