Even if you did, 'wicked' is a rather strong word for it.What evidence do you have that I lie, gossip, am impolite, have idols, and am a thief? You know nothing about me.
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Even if you did, 'wicked' is a rather strong word for it.What evidence do you have that I lie, gossip, am impolite, have idols, and am a thief? You know nothing about me.
Even if you did, 'wicked' is a rather strong word for it.
Plus, property (a pencil) is theft.Even if you did, 'wicked' is a rather strong word for it.
The Alagaddupama and Ananda suttas.
Have you read the eschatology in the Tipitaka?
Not you.
Im not talking about you im talking about human nature in general.
This is the Christian view, yes. As a Hindu, it's not one I share with you. The Hindu view is more moderate. Because I see life as over many many lifetimes. To start with, we're clouded by a triple bondage. In Sanskrit this tripe bondage is anava, karma, and maya collectively. At the beginning of this long sojourn, our soul is clouded by these factors. A more appropriate word, in English, would be stupidity. We don't see stupidity as evil. Does the university professor look down on the kid in the kindergarten class? No. But he does recognise them as immature in their learning. So the folks you call sinners, I'd call uneducated or immature. Experience, over many lifetimes, will educate them. Hence I have the belief that there is a spark of divinity in everyone, and that's outwardly reflected in our many greetings. Very different paradigms, but hey, that's the nature of this world.People who do those things might not be wicked but they are sinners and imperfect.
But you said, "we." I'm not sure if you have a different definition of the word that I do, but if you do, can you help me to understand how I'm separated from "we?"
Then you probably should use a term other than "we."
This is the Christian view, yes. As a Hindu, it's not one I share with you. The Hindu view is more moderate. Because I see life as over many many lifetimes. To start with, we're clouded by a triple bondage. In Sanskrit this tripe bondage is anava, karma, and maya collectively. At the beginning of this long sojourn, our soul is clouded by these factors. A more appropriate word, in English, would be stupidity. We don't see stupidity as evil. Does the university professor look down on the kid in the kindergarten class? No. But he does recognise them as immature in their learning. So the folks you call sinners, I'd call uneducated or immature. Experience, over many lifetimes, will educate them. Hence I have the belief that there is a spark of divinity in everyone, and that's outwardly reflected in our many greetings. Very different paradigms, but hey, that's the nature of this world.
I have read and studied extensively all the Holy Scriptures of all Faiths regarding the Promised One, not just Buddhist and am in no doubt whatever with regard to my findings.
I have read and studied extensively all the Holy Scriptures of all Faiths regarding the Promised One, not just Buddhist and am in no doubt whatever with regard to my findings.
I am pretty sure both of these Suttas dont have him being silent on the question of Atta and Anatta.
If I am not mistaken Ananda Sutta is predominantly about the impermanence of everything he is asked of, and the Buddha answers. He does not stay silent. Also, the questions are on the form, etc et. Not on the not-self. So is not Alagaddupama Sutta which is about various parables that explain how you must take studies and education and the discourse with Aritha this so called ex vulture killer.
I cant see that discussion you spoke of brother.
"After an exchange of friendly greetings and courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there he asked the Blessed One: "Now then, Venerable Gotama, is there a self?"
When this was said, the Blessed One was silent.
"Then is there no self?"
A second time, the Blessed One was silent."
- Ananda Sutta: To Ananda
...and the other one:
- Alagaddupama Sutta: The Water-Snake Simile
I don't believe in Adam or Eve or Lucifer, so the question makes no sense to me, sorry.Isnt the desire to be God what caused the fall of Adam and Eve, and the fall of Lucifer?
I don't believe in Adam or Eve or Lucifer, so the question makes no sense to me, sorry.
But this is way off topic from the OP. If you'd like to make another thread, go for it.
Alagaddupama Sutta does not have this part.
Sorry to confuse, the quote is from the other sutta.
I have read both in full.