Even if you did, 'wicked' is a rather strong word for it.
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Are Buddhist and Hindu Scriptures Inaccurate?
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
The Alagaddupama and Ananda suttas.
People who do those things might not be wicked but they are sinners and imperfect.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Plus, property (a pencil) is theft.
firedragon
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I am pretty sure both of these Suttas dont have him being silent on the question of Atta and Anatta.
If I am not mistaken Ananda Sutta is predominantly about the impermanence of everything he is asked of, and the Buddha answers. He does not stay silent. Also, the questions are on the form, etc et. Not on the not-self. So is not Alagaddupama Sutta which is about various parables that explain how you must take studies and education and the discourse with Aritha this so called ex vulture killer.
I cant see that discussion you spoke of brother.
I have read and studied extensively all the Holy Scriptures of all Faiths regarding the Promised One, not just Buddhist and am in no doubt whatever with regard to my findings.
But you said, "we." I'm not sure if you have a different definition of the word that I do, but if you do, can you help me to understand how I'm separated from "we?"
Then you probably should use a term other than "we."
This is the Christian view, yes. As a Hindu, it's not one I share with you. The Hindu view is more moderate. Because I see life as over many many lifetimes. To start with, we're clouded by a triple bondage. In Sanskrit this tripe bondage is anava, karma, and maya collectively. At the beginning of this long sojourn, our soul is clouded by these factors. A more appropriate word, in English, would be stupidity. We don't see stupidity as evil. Does the university professor look down on the kid in the kindergarten class? No. But he does recognise them as immature in their learning. So the folks you call sinners, I'd call uneducated or immature. Experience, over many lifetimes, will educate them. Hence I have the belief that there is a spark of divinity in everyone, and that's outwardly reflected in our many greetings. Very different paradigms, but hey, that's the nature of this world.
I wasn't accusing anyone I was talking about human nature in general. Its similar to drinking water because nothing is certain but its certain we will get sick if we dont drink water.
I apologize.
Isnt the desire to be God what caused the fall of Adam and Eve, and the fall of Lucifer?
Who do you believe the Messiah is?
firedragon
Veteran Member
So please do provide how your studies of the Chakkavatti Sutta in the Tipitaka that speaks extensively about the coming of the Metteya Buddha matches with your finding that it was Bahaullah who already came.
If you have studied it extensively you should know how it supports your theology by heart.
Let me give you direct reference. You will not find other places in the Tipitaka with this eschatology, so since you have studied this, it is impossible to miss it.
It is Tipitaka, Sutta Pitaka, Dheega Nikaaya, Cakkavatti Sutta.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
"After an exchange of friendly greetings and courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there he asked the Blessed One: "Now then, Venerable Gotama, is there a self?"
When this was said, the Blessed One was silent.
"Then is there no self?"
A second time, the Blessed One was silent."
- Ananda Sutta: To Ananda
...and the other one:
- Alagaddupama Sutta: The Water-Snake Simile
firedragon
Veteran Member
Brother. Alagaddupama Sutta does not have this part.
And you see if you read the Ananda Sutta, just like the Aggivacchagotta Sutta, this is a discussion on sectarianism. Please read the immediate next paragraph.
But otherwise, in the Tipitaka, especially in Anatta Lakkhana, the concept of Anatta is explained in detail.
I don't believe in Adam or Eve or Lucifer, so the question makes no sense to me, sorry.
But this is way off topic from the OP. If you'd like to make another thread, go for it.
I was explaining why I didn't agree with what you said about people having divinity.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Sorry to confuse, the quote is from the other sutta.
I have read both in full.
Whats your belief about the hindu scriptures?