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Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Another view on Bible violence (applies to any Scripture):
Hypothetical:
1) God exists and one goal of humans is to live a humane life
2) God is Loving, Just and Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient
3) God inspired to write the Scriptures (as an example I use the Bible)
In short:
* All our Scriptures contain quite some violence.
* I prefer the Truth, not the "Bible/Scriptural facts" without any common sense.
Fact: Nowadays people do these violent acts they "Bible-claim" God also did
No Fact: "Bible God's alleged violence" consists of raping children/women, murdering...
Assumption: From above I find it safe to assume people 2000 years ago also did violent acts
My idea:
IF true that people were violent ca. 2000 years ago
THEN a loving God will educate them to become less violent
* People rather not hear "You SHOULD" or having their faults pointed out by others.
* God being all knowing, uses non-literal stories in the Bible/Scriptures to teach us
* People will block and go into denial if others point out their violent acts and errors
* Ascribe these acts to God, using not too personal stories, makes them easier to digest
* For everything is the proper time; often it's best to have people figure it out themselves
The positive verses I see as the "to do" lessons
The negative verses I see as the "not to do" lessons
A very important lesson: Common Sense before Divine Sense
Evolution is all about learning/evolving. The world is like our university, in which professors don't spoon feed us, neither will the Divine Teacher, hence the Bible contains hints and not "ready to eat chunks" of information. This even gives more satisfaction...don't you think?
So the violent verses are educational and much needed to urge people to introspect; pos/neg are just part of life
In short:
People were the ones doing many of "God's alleged violent" acts, it need not have been God (as in "outside us") who did them
Hypothetical:
1) God exists and one goal of humans is to live a humane life
2) God is Loving, Just and Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient
3) God inspired to write the Scriptures (as an example I use the Bible)
In short:
* All our Scriptures contain quite some violence.
* I prefer the Truth, not the "Bible/Scriptural facts" without any common sense.
Fact: Nowadays people do these violent acts they "Bible-claim" God also did
No Fact: "Bible God's alleged violence" consists of raping children/women, murdering...
Assumption: From above I find it safe to assume people 2000 years ago also did violent acts
My idea:
IF true that people were violent ca. 2000 years ago
THEN a loving God will educate them to become less violent
* People rather not hear "You SHOULD" or having their faults pointed out by others.
* God being all knowing, uses non-literal stories in the Bible/Scriptures to teach us
* People will block and go into denial if others point out their violent acts and errors
* Ascribe these acts to God, using not too personal stories, makes them easier to digest
* For everything is the proper time; often it's best to have people figure it out themselves
The positive verses I see as the "to do" lessons
The negative verses I see as the "not to do" lessons
A very important lesson: Common Sense before Divine Sense
Evolution is all about learning/evolving. The world is like our university, in which professors don't spoon feed us, neither will the Divine Teacher, hence the Bible contains hints and not "ready to eat chunks" of information. This even gives more satisfaction...don't you think?
So the violent verses are educational and much needed to urge people to introspect; pos/neg are just part of life
In short:
People were the ones doing many of "God's alleged violent" acts, it need not have been God (as in "outside us") who did them
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