Americans ?!?!?

[Riverwolf]

Just curious... For all the Americans that don't want to be American what nationality do you want to be and why?

Great question.

For me, it's not really a question of preferred nationality. If it were, I'd make a greater effort to become the nationality I'd want otherwise. Rather, there are aspects of US socio-political culture that I vehemently disagree with, because it echoes far too greatly the imperialistic attitudes of Rome. They seem so ubiquitous, though, that the term "American" seems basically synonymous with them, here and the world over.

Therefore, I do not identify as American, not in terms of nationality but in terms of personal values, because I do not want to be associated with things I find abhorrent.

 

[Riverwolf]

Not saying it is like this for anybody here...seems becoming common that it's one more thing which is supposed to conjure up shame/guilt/contempt for a person to be as P.C. and trendy as possible.

The people most vocal about their pride and joy in being American usually started out elsewhere.

If I'm understanding you correctly, I can see what you're saying. Honestly, I share the concern, too. I don't like the concept of PC at all; I find it's used in one of two ways: cover up all differences of all kinds and white-wash all the culture-based horrors of the world; or, as a derogatory term used by racist and sexist folk for those who don't share their views.

Here's how I see it. I'm not a patriot. But, those of you who are patriots, you wave your country's flag high and proud!

And for the record, I'm not proud of the US as a country now. BUT, I do find the image of the Statue of Liberty quite inspiring, knowing what She stands for, truly.

 

[paragon]

I'm from the East Coast, *****. Also, screw democracy. **** the system, etc..

 

[Sees]

If I'm understanding you correctly, I can see what you're saying. Honestly, I share the concern, too. I don't like the concept of PC at all; I find it's used in one of two ways: cover up all differences of all kinds and white-wash all the culture-based horrors of the world; or, as a derogatory term used by racist and sexist folk for those who don't share their views.

Here's how I see it. I'm not a patriot. But, those of you who are patriots, you wave your country's flag high and proud!

And for the record, I'm not proud of the US as a country now. BUT, I do find the image of the Statue of Liberty quite inspiring, knowing what She stands for, truly.

I understand brother...I am a patriot through and through but there is plenty I don't like, even some I hate with a passion. If people have well thought out reasoning for their view, feelings on it - never an issue with me...it's the bandwagon p.c. stuff that "gets me" personally.

 

[adi2d]

I'm from the East Coast, *****. Also, screw democracy. **** the system, etc..

Posting that image also tells me you're an ******

 

[paragon]

“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” ― Mark Twain

Posting that image also tells me you're an ******

Why thank you.

 

[Sees]

“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” ― Mark Twain

Why thank you.

It's not as novel or fringe as you wish to think

 

[paragon]

It's not as novel or fringe as you wish to think

Awwww.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

I'm from the East Coast, *****. Also, screw democracy. **** the system, etc..

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm American, though the idea of becoming an expat global citizen seems more appealing with each passing day.

 

[BSM1]

I'm from the East Coast, *****. Also, screw democracy. **** the system, etc..

This is one reason I take pride in being an American. This person has every right to do this in this country without fear of punishment.

 

[Viker]

This is one reason I take pride in being an American. This person has every right to do this in this country without fear of punishment.

Well, until some of my biker friends get a hold of them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, until some of my biker friends get a hold of them.

And fortunately, flag burners have the right to shoot an assailant.
It's a utopia!

 

[columbus]

This is one reason I take pride in being an American. This person has every right to do this in this country without fear of punishment.

I am reminded of the dufous Muslims in UK using their right to free speech to demonstrate against free speech.

Tom

 

[Viker]

And fortunately, flag burners have the right to shoot an assailant.
It's a utopia!

Freedom of 'spression! 'Murica!

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

I am reminded of the dufous Muslims in UK using their right to free speech to demonstrate against free speech.

Tom

Or Westboro Baptist (Bat-s***) Church using their right to free speech to speak hatred against the United States, under police protection no less.

 

[paragon]

Do half of you understand the meaning of flag burning?

 

[Viker]

Do half of you know what flag burning means?

It means a van full of angry and drunk Marines would like a word with you.

 

[savagewind]

Do half of you understand the meaning of flag burning?

I do not.

But I am looking.

I found this.

Burning a photo of a drawing of a 3-starred red, white and blue 4-striped flag would land you in jail for a year.

The Elusive Definition of Flag Burning

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Do half of you understand the meaning of flag burning?

It's the international symbol for politically clueless teenagers trying to be edgy.