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Afghanistan's president flees the country as Taliban moves to take Kabul

We Never Know

No Slack
No.
But I'm not the one trumpeting the jobs created
by all these woes inflicted during wars.

Get real?
Sure, those things create jobs.
But at what cost?
Government takes taxpayer money away from taxpayers
who'd spend it in useful things...or purely fun things, &
that too creates jobs. But you claim fewer jobs...without
any evidence or analysis.
Your claim gives fuel to the hawks who think war is good
for the economy, & let that take priority over morality.

I think you're the only person in Ameristan who claims
that Covid is good for the economy.

Bad things cost jobs.
We must compare those jobs with the alternative
of not enduring bad things.
You could shoot your neighbor's dog in the leg.
The vet would make money. Is there any real
economic benefit? No.
As someone once said...."Get real".

Again me nor anyone has said bad things that create jobs are good. That's your own thought in your own head.

I think you deal in antique/old motors.
If one of your motors blew up, that's a bad thing but that bad thing creates jobs. Someone to mill the heads, seat the valves, hone the cylinders, etc.
That bad thing creates jobs(unless you do it yourself) then the tools you need to do it were created in case that bad thing happened which created jobs.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If they didn't waste trillions of dollars, they could....
- Skip the tax increases.
- Give us free health care.
- Fix roads & bridges.

Of course building weapons & sending soldiers off to ****hole
countries to become maimed or dead creates more jobs than
doing useful things...so I'm told.

"- Skip the tax increases.
- Give us free health care.
- Fix roads & bridges."

You live in America. But hey having dreams are nice.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If they didn't waste trillions of dollars, they could....
- Skip the tax increases.
- Give us free health care.
- Fix roads & bridges.

Of course building weapons & sending soldiers off to ****hole
countries to become maimed or dead creates more jobs than
doing useful things...so I'm told.

Infrastructure. That's a good one. They have been at it for months to get aa infrastructure bill deal. They say they have been working overtime, going back early, staying late, etc. Both parties are telling everyone we are hard at it. I say shut the hell up, pass it and fix what needs fixed instead of using it to campaign for re-election.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Again me nor anyone has said bad things that create jobs are good. That's your own thought in your own head.

I think you deal in antique/old motors.
If one of your motors blew up, that's a bad thing but that bad thing creates jobs. Someone to mill the heads, seat the valves, hone the cylinders, etc.
That bad thing creates jobs(unless you do it yourself) then the tools you need to do it were created in case that bad thing happened which created jobs.
The money spent to repair that blown up engine would've
been spent to fix up a different engine. (I have many projects
awaiting work. Money isn't unlimited.)

You tout the job creating benefit of death & destruction
without considering the jobs lost because of diverted funds.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"- Skip the tax increases.
- Give us free health care.
- Fix roads & bridges."

You live in America. But hey having dreams are nice.
You're justifying wasting money on war by saying not
only that it creates jobs, but that the money will be
spent only on war. So it cannot be saved for better
usages.
That's the theme I read in your post. Amazing.
Please...never ever run for office.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You're justifying wasting money on war by saying not
only that it creates jobs, but that the money will be
spent only on war. So it cannot be saved for better
usages.
That's the theme I read in your post. Amazing.
Please...never ever run for office.

Im not using anything to justify anything.
I am simply laying out reality. That's how it is and has been for 100's if not thousands of years. If you can change it lay out your plan and take it to congress(it wouldn't do any good but you have dreams)
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The money spent to repair that blown up engine would've
been spent to fix up a different engine. (I have many projects
awaiting work. Money isn't unlimited.)

You tout the job creating benefit of death & destruction
without considering the jobs lost because of diverted funds.

But yet that blown up engine will happen no matter if the money to fix it would be better off fixing up another engine. You still have to mill the heads, seat the valves, hone the cylinders of that other engine you would fix up or it could blow just like the one you didn't want to fix.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Im not using anything to justify anything.
I am simply laying out reality. That's how it is and has been for 100's if not thousands of years. If you can change it lay out your plan and take it to congress(it wouldn't do any good but you have dreams)
You laid out your view of reality.
I disagree (vigorously) with it.
Moreover, such views have the danger of convincing
others that war creates jobs, & is good for the economy.
Even death & maiming of soldiers is good for the economy.
And that taxes will rise & be wasted no matter how we
vote or advocate.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Its as new a covid-19. That's another piece of reality.
All depends upon who you talk to.
I know some who say Covid 19 is a hoax that Democrats
are using to exercise greater control over us. And the
vaccines are designed to make us magnetic.....what for
I've not yet discovered. But you know it's a fiendish plot.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
All depends upon who you talk to.
I know some who say Covid 19 is a hoax that Democrats
are using to exercise greater control over us. And the
vaccines are designed to make us magnetic.....what for
I've not yet discovered. But you know it's a fiendish plot.
It is what it is. Its deadly, herd immunity probably can't be reached, vaccinations help but can still catch and spread it, its now hitting more pediactic(12 and under), it isn't going away.

Edit. People are saying it will be like the flu. I disagree because hot or cold, covid rages on. Its season will be all year long.

Edit...I don't live in fear of pneumonia, the flu, cancer, car accidents, etc and im not going to live in fear because of covid.
Reality is we all die. Sure most of us would like to live longer but in reality many won't for whatever reason.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
...vaccinations help but can still catch and spread it....
"Can" is a word that tries to trick us into believing
that statement is significant.
What matters is that vaccination reduces transmissibility
(& it has other benefits, eg, reducing severity of infection).
Always remember the old saying...
Perfection is the enemy of useful.

Ref...
COVID vaccines slash viral spread – but Delta is an unknown
Can people vaccinated against COVID-19 still spread the coronavirus?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
"Can" is a word that tries to trick us into believing
that statement is significant.
What matters is that vaccination reduces transmissibility
(& it has other benefits, eg, reducing severity of infection).
Always remember the old saying...
Perfection is the enemy of useful.

Ref...
COVID vaccines slash viral spread – but Delta is an unknown
Can people vaccinated against COVID-19 still spread the coronavirus?

You can't fully live life by always fearing death. -We Never Know 8-17-2021.

The World May Never Reach Herd Immunity Against Covid-19

How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
War is natural, look at the way species exist in nature, turf wars everywhere, albeit on a local scale. Just as all large multinational companies have 5/10/etc. year business plans to reflect their future goals for growth and expansion, in competition with others, so do nations. The major nations already have plans and maps reflecting the territory they intend to dominate economically or other way in the future. Globalization is for real, eventually the winner will control the world. Who will it be, China, US, Russia, Europe, some alliance of those nations? It will not be possible imho for a permanent one world government to be without war. Wars like in Afghanistan are proxy wars of the major globalization players, most were involved to some degree.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
"Can" is a word that tries to trick us into believing
that statement is significant.
What matters is that vaccination reduces transmissibility
(& it has other benefits, eg, reducing severity of infection).
Always remember the old saying...
Perfection is the enemy of useful.

Ref...
COVID vaccines slash viral spread – but Delta is an unknown
Can people vaccinated against COVID-19 still spread the coronavirus?

Here's a good example of stupidity in my opinion.

Restaurant " we only allows vaccinated people to enter"
Bill "here's my negative covid test from 20 minutes ago"
Restaurant I don't care! No vaccine no entry!
Bill "ok and starts walking away but hears....
Bob "I'm vaccinated but I don't know if I have covid or not"
Restaurant "It's of no matter. You are vaccinated so come on in"

Stupidity in my opinion!
 
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