Afghanistan's president flees the country as Taliban moves to take Kabul

[Revoltingest]

Selfishness! Really. I d8dbt say or insinuate that. Again here you go making things up in your own little mind just like you did about war.

There you go again...."own little mind".
When reason is lacking, the vitriol comes out.

Did you forget what you posted in #76...
"In my opinion most people didn't get vaccinated to save humanity,
they got vaccinated our of fear to save their own arse, you included."
That is indeed insinuation of selfishness.

 

[We Never Know]

I got the shots to protect myself & others I know.
You dismiss it as fear & selfishness.

About selfishness....what motivates you to discourage
people from vaccination...insulting them as fearful
& selfish? It's certainly not to help anyone else.
Nay, it actually harms others to proffer anti-vaxer
advocacy & to ridicule those of us who got the shots.

But hey you go travel around even to Canada with your engines because you think you are gooden because you are vaccinated. In the mean time I rarely travel, hime, and wear a mask when I feel I should or its required.

 

[We Never Know]

But you accuse others of "fear".
What makes your reason rational instead of fearful?

I suggest that you allow others to have reason & not fear
as a motive for taking precautions. Don't discourage others
from wearing masks & getting vaccinated with accusations
of fear so severe it prevents living life to the fullest.
Criminy, man, getting a couple shots in the arm for free is
no inconvenience at all.

I have never discouraged anyone from wearing a mask or getting the vaccine. Hell I've even promoted them if people feel they are needed. If false assertions and accusations for a defense is all you have, that just sad.

 

[Revoltingest]

But hey you go travel around even to Canada with your engines because you think you are gooden because you are vaccinated.

I've never taken an engine to Canuckistan.
Haven't been there in many years.

In the mean time I rarely travel, hime, and wear a mask when I feel I should or its required.

This is good.
So why belittle others for taking reasonable precautions
against contracting & spreading disease? I'm really
curious just what it is you are trying to achieve by this.

 

[We Never Know]

There you go again...."own little mind".
When reason is lacking, the vitriol comes out.

Did you forget what you posted in #76...
"In my opinion most people didn't get vaccinated to save humanity,
they got vaccinated our of fear to save their own arse, you included."
That is indeed insinuation of selfishness.

In my opinion what I posted is true.
Be 100% honest... did your get the vaccine fir you or your neighbours.

 

[We Never Know]

I've never taken an engine to Canuckistan.
Haven't been there in many years.

This is good.
So why belittle others for taking reasonable precautions
against contracting & spreading disease? I'm really
curious just what it is you are trying to achieve by this.

Really!! You bring up belittle which is all you have been doing even falsely saying i said war is good.

Edit. Example I never said war is good but it creates jobs.

You couldn't differ between the two and all you saw is war is good.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have never discouraged anyone from wearing a mask or getting the vaccine. Hell I've even promoted them if people feel they are needed. If false assertions and accusations for a defense is all you have, that just sad.

I recommend reading your many posts about people who
get the vaccine doing so out of fear & only to "save their
own arse, you included" (post #81). You've many posts
attacking us for getting vaccinated. Why?

 

[Revoltingest]

In my opinion what I posted is true.
Be 100% honest... did your get the vaccine fir you or your neighbours.

In the honesty area, I think I have the advantage.
I'm not cagy, misleading, or prevaricating.

As for vaccination, tis as I said....I got it for myself
and others I meet.
Do you believe that you're the only person with
some sense of responsibility for others?
I'm getting that impression from your posts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Really!! You bring up belittle which is all you have been doing even falsely saying i said war is good.

You made the false claim that it creates jobs.
This makes war more attractive to people who buy that claim.
The real issue should be a question....
Why do so many of your posts make war appear to be good?

 

[We Never Know]

In the honesty area, I think I have the advantage.
I'm not cagy, misleading, or prevaricating.

As for vaccination, tis as I said....I got for myself
and others I meet.
Do you believe that you're the only person with
some sense of responsibility for others?
I'm getting that impression from your posts.

At least you admitted is was for you and not other. That's funny being you criticize people who haven't taken it. As they are selfish and that they should not think about themselves so much but think of others.

 

[We Never Know]

You made the false claim that it creates jobs.
This makes war more attractive to people who buy that claim.
The real issue should be a question....
Why do so many of your posts make war appear to be good?

"false claim that it creates jobs."?????

Does war create jobs? Yes or no? False or true?

 

[Revoltingest]

At least you admitted is was for you and not other.

That severely misrepresents what I posted....
"I got for myself and others I meet."
I said "and the others" which you represented as "and not the other".

That's funny being you criticize people who haven't taken it. As they are selfish and that they should not think about themselves so much but think of others.

This is deflection from the issue of why you belittle
people who get vaccinated. Again, why do that?
What is your goal?

 

[Revoltingest]

"false claim that it creates jobs."?????

Does war create jobs? Yes or no? False or true?

It does not.
It is a net killer of jobs...& people.

It is a heinous claim to portray war, including useless
wars, as having the benefit of creating jobs.

 

[We Never Know]

That severely misrepresents what I posted....
"I got for myself and others I meet."
I said "and the others" which you represented as "and not the other".

This is deflection from the issue of why you belittle
people who get vaccinated. Again, why do that?
What is your goal?

You should know all about misrepresenting what is posted. After all when I said war creates jobs you claimed I was saying war is good. Johnny give this person a prize!

 

[Revoltingest]

You should know all about misrepresenting what is posted. After all when I said war creates jobs you claimed I was saying war is good. Johnny give this person a prize!

You portray war as having a benefit...the highly desired
benefit of creating jobs, eg, making planes, hospitalizing
the wounded.
What is the purpose of making a false claim of economic
benefit if not to advocate for war?
Your posts never said that "war is good", but if they continually
tout the economic benefit of war, without criticism of war,
then such advocacy is functionally proffering war as good.

 

[We Never Know]

It does not.
It is a net killer of jobs...& people.

It is a heinous claim to portray war, including useless
wars, as having the benefit of creating jobs.

Anyone that builds weapons, ammo, armour, rations, helmets, ships, planes, missles, etc have a job because of war. So yes, war does create jobs.

 

[We Never Know]

You portray war as having a benefit...the highly desired
benefit of creating jobs, eg, making planes, hospitalizing
the wounded.
What is the purpose of making a false claim of economic
benefit if not to advocate for war?

I portray war as creating jobs, period. Good or bad, jobs are created.

 

[Revoltingest]

I portray war as creating jobs, period. Good or bad, jobs are created.

Let's set aside the issue of accuracy.
Again I ask, what is your purpose in making
a positive claim for economic benefit of war,
but with no criticism of war?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

We trained and armed 350,000 Afghan troops with state of the art weapons. In less than two weeks they laid down their given weapons and abandoned everything because of fear. How has that worked out.

My point is fear controls people. Then because of fear they blame others.
In my opinion we see this happening with covid. The ones that feared it ran to first in line to be vaccinated. Now that even herd immunity isn't likely to happen, even if 95% are vaccinated, the vaccinated blame the unvsccinated. In reality its fear that drives them so they blame someone else for something that is likely not going to happen any way even to a point they say if the unvaccinated die, I don't care.

That analogy is doing a LOT of heavy lifting here. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's completely irrelevant.

 

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That analogy is doing a LOT of heavy lifting here. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's completely irrelevant.

I was there and helped train many. You don't drop and run at the first sign of trouble. We were there 20 years. They fell in two weeks.