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Sunstone said:Should minor children be required to notify their parents before getting an abortion except when a judge grants otherwise?
nutshell said:I voted yes, but alas the CA propisition was shot down.
Sunstone said:Should minor children be required to notify their parents before getting an abortion except when a judge grants otherwise?
Sunstone said:Should minor children be required to notify their parents before getting an abortion except when a judge grants otherwise?
Because CA is a bunch of pinko lib commies? That would be my stab in the dark.Sunstone said:I'm curious why it failed, Nutshell. Any ideas about that?
It would be interesting to study the percentage of parents, whose underage daughters get pregnant and seek abortions, who would be psychologically deemed unfit to make healthy decisions for their children. My guess is, the number wouldn't be too high.s2a said:I suppose that depends on whether or not you are of the opinion that all parents of all minor children are the very best caretakers of their own children's lives and futures. Idealistically, one might hope or wish this is so. Pragmatically, it can often be argued that parents of minor children are poor, utterly absent, or entirely negative role models and providers of exemplified ideals.
That's a tough one. On the one hand, it ends up with the problem of young girls seeking out illegal and very dangerous abortions to avoid the wrath of their parents. But on the other hand, there's a good argument that parents need to know about this sort of thing to be able to care for their children.Sunstone said:Should minor children be required to notify their parents before getting an abortion except when a judge grants otherwise?
There is a social stigma over abortion in this country. AND there is a social stigma over being young, single, and pregnant in this country. So these girls are really caught between a rock and a hard place.darkwaldo said:I'm not really sure about this. If I was a parent I think I would like to know but, I would feel sorry for the girls whose parents prevent them from getting an abortion, or were prolife. There seems to be so much social stigma over abortion in this country. It would be sad to have ones parents against them as well.
s2a said:I suppose that depends on whether or not you are of the opinion that all parents of all minor children are the very best caretakers of their own children's lives and futures. Idealistically, one might hope or wish this is so. Pragmatically, it can often be argued that parents of minor children are poor, utterly absent, or entirely negative role models and providers of exemplified ideals.
The question is, and remains, should dysfunctional or disengaged parents of teenagers retain the absolute right of potentially mandated enforcement of bringing and unwanted/unintended pregnancy to full term on behalf of their twelve-year-old daughter? Howsabout when she's seventeen?
At what age should females be allowed self-determination of their own reproductive health? At puberty; at age of legal sexual consent; or age of accountable adult maturity?
The second question remains as well. What prevailing or compelling overriding interest does the State possess in determining (legislating/mandating) the reproductive health or available options of any fertile female, regadless of their age?
Where abortion rates have been studied pre- and post- enactment of parental notification laws what they tend to find is that abortions in the first trimester go down while abortions in the second trimester or later go up. Girls who are 17 are waiting til they turn 18 to have abortions. Whatever our respective stances on abortion I would hope that everyone would agree that if an abortion is going to happen it would be better for all involved if it happened earlier rather than later.doppelgänger said:That's a tough one. On the one hand, it ends up with the problem of young girls seeking out illegal and very dangerous abortions to avoid the wrath of their parents. But on the other hand, there's a good argument that parents need to know about this sort of thing to be able to care for their children.
It's very close, but I think my personal opinion is "no." What tips it for me is that there's already something seriously wrong with a parental-child relationship where a child is afraid to tell her parents that she's pregnant and/or wants an abortion.
FerventGodSeeker said:It would be interesting to study the percentage of parents, whose underage daughters get pregnant and seek abortions, who would be psychologically deemed unfit to make healthy decisions for their children. My guess is, the number wouldn't be too high.